Re: [stir] RFC 8224
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 07 April 2021 16:54 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>, "Zerr, Brad" <BZerr@tnsi.com>, Chris Wendt <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>
CC: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>, IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>, "Toy, Arthur" <atoy@tnsi.com>
Thread-Topic: [stir] RFC 8224
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Subject: Re: [stir] RFC 8224
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Hi, >> Maybe the problem with the To header is the phone-context parameter. The RFC 8224 procedures do not cover the presence of the parameter: the parameter >> is not removed, nor is it added to the tn. And, the generic SIP canonicalization procedures does not remove the parameter either. > > That is not my understanding of RFC 8224 section 8.1 and 8.3. What is your understanding? Regards, Christer > From: Zerr, Brad <BZerr@tnsi.com> > Sent: keskiviikko 7. huhtikuuta 2021 18.26 > To: Chris Wendt <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>; Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> > Cc: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>; Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>; Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>; Toy, Arthur <atoy@tnsi.com> > Subject: RE: [stir] RFC 8224 > > Hi Chris, > > Here is a little background that got this conversation going. > > One of our customers sent us a SIP INVITE so we could perform the Stir-Shaken Signing for them. The customer performed the translations on their MMTEL TAS to translate *55 to a 10 digit number. When we receive the SIP INVITE for signing, it had the REQ-URI with the 10 digit number and the TO header with *55, see below. Our applications rejected this because of the TO header (whether it is right or wrong is to be determined). So we start questioning how * and # short codes should be handled. > > FYI, I “x” out information to keep anonymous > > INVITE sip:+xxxxxxxxxx;phone-context=imsmncXXXmccXXXXgppnetworkorg@ims.mncxxx.mcc3xxx.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone SIP/2.0 > To: sip:*99;phone-context=ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone > From: sip:+1xxxxxxxxxx@ims.mncxxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org;tag=p65539t1617206731m169121c110882s1_1220390100-1617434405 > Call-ID: p65539t1617206731m169121c110882s2 > CSeq: 1 INVITE > Max-Forwards: 66 > Content-Length: 896 > Via: SIP/2.0/TCP xxxxxxxxxx:5060;branch=z9hG4bK1a5ca0b3c42536a59ddec4c723f8774fk555555yaaaaacaaaaaaaaaaaaa3Zqkv7yujk3t0qbaaiaiaaaaabqaaaaaaaqaaaaaa > Via: SIP/2.0/TCP xxxxxxx:5082;branch=z9hG4bK1220390081-337970536 > Route: sip:xxxx.cgah.ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org;callhalf=orig;lr > Route: sip:3Zqkv7%2FcaGmGRV9neaaaacgloTpN3kFNU6jv2EObabaecaSdeaaaadsip%3A%2Bxxxxxxxx%40ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.orgOLxz6Geaeaqxxxxxxxxxxx%40ims.mncxxx.mcc3xxx.3gppnetwork.org@xxxxxxxxxxxx:5060;lr > Record-Route: sip:3Zqkv7%20caqmGRV9ngaaaaaQjv2EObabaeaaaaamsip%3A%2Bxxxxxxx%40ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org@scscf2.ims.mncxxxx.mccxxxx.3gppnetwork.org:5060;maddr=xxxxxxxxx;lr > Contact: sip:p65539t1617206731m169121c110882s1@xxxxxxxx:5082;+g.3gpp.accesstype="cellular";+g.3gpp.icsi-ref="urn%3Aurn-7%3A3gpp-service.ims.icsi.mmtel<sip:p65539t1617206731m169121c110882s1@xxxxxxxx:5082;+g.3gpp.accesstype=%22cellular%22;+g.3gpp.icsi-ref=%22urn%3Aurn-7%3A3gpp-service.ims.icsi.mmtel>" > Content-Type: application/sdp > Allow: REGISTER, REFER, NOTIFY, SUBSCRIBE, INFO, MESSAGE, PRACK, UPDATE, INVITE, ACK, OPTIONS, CANCEL, BYE > Accept-Contact: *;+g.3gpp.icsi-ref="urn%3Aurn-7%3A3gpp-service.ims.icsi.mmtel" > Supported: timer, 100rel, path, precondition, replaces > P-Asserted-Identity: sip:xxxxxxxxx@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org > P-Asserted-Identity: tel:xxxxxxxxx > Proxy-Authorization: Digest uri=sip:*99;phone-context=ims.mnc4xxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone,response="",nonce="",realm="",username=xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@ims.mncxxx.mcc3xxx.3gppnetwork.org<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@ims.mncxxx.mcc3xxx.3gppnetwork.org> > P-Visited-Network-ID: ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org > P-Access-Network-Info: 3GPP-E-UTRAN-FDD;local-time-zone="2021-03-31T11:05:31-05:00";utran-cell-id-3gpp=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Min-SE: 900 > Session-Expires: 1800 > P-Charging-Vector: icid-value=pcscf2.ims.mncxxx.mcc3xxx.3gppnetw-1617-206731-149675;icid-generated-at=pcscf2.ims.mncxxx.mccxxx.3gppnetwork.org;orig-ioi=ims.mncxxx.mccxxxx.3gppnetwork.org > User-Agent: Ericsson MTAS - CXP2010134/1 R20F14 > P-Charging-Function-Addresses: ccf="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" > P-Served-User: sip:xxxxxxxxxxx@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;sescase=orig;regstate=reg > Feature-Caps: *;+g.3gpp.registration-token="<63b9cf28>" > P-Early-Media: supported > Session-ID: 7c386176b888d13d404845e189d6885b > > From: Chris Wendt <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net<mailto:chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:10 AM > To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> > Cc: Zerr, Brad <BZerr@tnsi.com<mailto:BZerr@tnsi.com>>; Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org<mailto:marc@petit-huguenin.org>>; Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca<mailto:fluffy@iii.ca>>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org<mailto:stir@ietf.org>>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>>; Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz<mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz>>; Toy, Arthur <atoy@tnsi.com<mailto:atoy@tnsi.com>> > Subject: Re: [stir] RFC 8224 > > This is a legit question for RFC8224 and agree with the answers, but just in case it’s relevant you would not send these types of SIP URIs as dest in context of STIR/SHAKEN (over NNI/peering relationship) which only supports tel URIs currently. That may not be your use-case but just wanted to clarify in case it was relevant. I would be curious to know the context if you are willing to share though, i am guessing intra network use case between device and app server? Definitely interested in those cases, for me in context of delegate certs. > > -Chris > > > > On Apr 7, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > ´*´ can be used as such in a SIP-URI, but ‘#’ would have to be escaped. > > So: > > To: sip:*55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone > > …is ok, but; > > To: sip:#55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone<sip:*55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone> > > …is NOT ok. Instead: > > To: sip:%2355;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone > > …will have to be used. > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > From: Zerr, Brad <BZerr@tnsi.com<mailto:BZerr@tnsi.com>> > Sent: keskiviikko 7. huhtikuuta 2021 14.27 > To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>>; Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org<mailto:marc@petit-huguenin.org>>; Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca<mailto:fluffy@iii.ca>>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org<mailto:stir@ietf.org>> > Cc: chris-ietf@chriswendt.net<mailto:chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>>; Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz<mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz>>; Toy, Arthur <atoy@tnsi.com<mailto:atoy@tnsi.com>> > Subject: RE: [stir] RFC 8224 > > Good Morning. > > Would you mind providing an example of what the TO header should look like for both a * and # dial to help clear up? Assume they are leading characters in the TO header. > > Example of what is being sent today: > > To: sip:*55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone > > To: sip:#55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone<sip:*55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone> > > From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 3:14 AM > To: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org<mailto:marc@petit-huguenin.org>>; Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca<mailto:fluffy@iii.ca>>; Zerr, Brad <BZerr@tnsi.com<mailto:BZerr@tnsi.com>>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org<mailto:stir@ietf.org>> > Cc: chris-ietf@chriswendt.net<mailto:chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>>; Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz<mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz>>; Toy, Arthur <atoy@tnsi.com<mailto:atoy@tnsi.com>> > Subject: RE: [stir] RFC 8224 > > Hi, > >> I think the question was about the format to use before canonicalization. >> >> My understanding of RFC 3986 is that `#` should be escaped because it is the delimiter for an URI fragment. Fragments are not defined in SIP URIs, but a generic URI parser may still remove everything after and including '#'. > > "#" will have to be escaped in a SIP-URI, e.g., in a To header field. > > But, Section 8.3 of RFC 8224 has nothing to do with a SIP-URI or the To header field. > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > > > > > OTOH there is no need to escape '*' as it is part of the `sub-delims` rule. > > so > > .... > To: sip:*55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone > .... > > is fine, but dialing directly an extension would be: > > .... > To: sip:+14085550460%2377@example.org;user=phone > .... > > On 4/6/21 5:43 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: >> Hi, >> >> %2A is not the ASCII format of *, it is the escaped (see RFC 3261). >> >> And, the syntax allows both * and #, so no need to escape (in fact, it is not even possible to escape in this case): >> >> tn-spec = 1*tn-char >> tn-char = "#" / "*" / DIGIT >> >> Also, note that RFC 8224 does not define the syntax of the To header field - that is done in RFC 3261. The telephone number described in Section 8.3 of RFC 8224 will be included in the PASSPort (RFC 8225). >> >> Regards, >> >> Christer >> >> From: stir <stir-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings >> Sent: tiistai 6. huhtikuuta 2021 15.30 >> To: Zerr, Brad <BZerr@tnsi.com<mailto:BZerr@tnsi.com>>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org<mailto:stir@ietf.org>> >> Cc: chris-ietf@chriswendt.net<mailto:chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>>; Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz<mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz>>; Toy, Arthur <atoy@tnsi.com<mailto:atoy@tnsi.com>> >> Subject: Re: [stir] RFC 8224 >> >> >> Adding to STIR mailing list … >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Zerr, Brad <BZerr@tnsi.com<mailto:BZerr@tnsi.com<mailto:BZerr@tnsi.com%3cmailto:BZerr@tnsi.com>>> wrote: >> >> Good Morning. >> >> This may not be the correct process, so let me know if I should ask this in a different forum. >> >> I had a question regarding section 8.3 when it comes to * and # handling. Is this stating that when a * or # proceeds a digit string (i.e. *55), it should be in ASCI Format for the * (i.e. %2A) >> >> <image001.png> >> >> So Instead of this: >> >> To: sip:*55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone >> >> It should be this >> >> To: sip:%2A55;phone-context=ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org@ims.mnc420.mcc312.3gppnetwork.org;user=phone >> >> >> > > -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=247f4226-7be47af4-247f02bd-866132fe445e-1643d035697446bf&q=1&e=752f8e22-1054-4dd1-a34b-0b0d5deca043&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmarc.petit-huguenin.org%2F Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Cullen Jennings
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Chris Wendt
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Chris Wendt
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Brian Rosen
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Chris Wendt
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Chris Wendt
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Chris Wendt
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Zerr, Brad
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Chris Wendt
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Peterson, Jon
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] RFC 8224 Marc Petit-Huguenin