Re: [Stox] Review on -im

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Thu, 01 August 2013 08:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Stox] Review on -im
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On 8/1/13 10:55 AM, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé wrote:
> 
> On Aug 1, 2013, at 10:52 AM, <Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't add RFC 5438 to my slides, though, because I too had forgotten about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> One piece of data that would be helpful is to know how widely RFC 5438 is
>>> implemented, in comparison to RFC 4975. IMHO what we're trying to do in
>>> this WG is to describe practical interworking between SIP and XMPP.
>>> If a particular SIP or XMPP method is not widely implemented, I say that we
>>> don't talk about it because it's purely theoretical (e.g., I removed everything
>>> about XEP-0155). Thus some input on that point would be helpful here.
>>>
>>
>> I agree with the principle of including only methods that are supported by real client implementations, especially related to specs that are a few years old already. 
>>
>> I have not personally heard about RFC 5438 implementations. So unless someone has other info, I'm fine with excluding it from the stox-im spec.
>>
> 
> FWIW, I haven't seen any myself either.

Thanks for the data points!

Peter

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