Re: [Stox] core issues

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Fri, 23 August 2013 17:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Stox] core issues
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WFM

On 8/23/13 1:11 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 8/23/13 3:55 AM, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see the subject hasn't changed, so are we talking about the -core draft or the -media draft here? The early media situation is indeed tricky when RTP is being used, but if we are dealing with chat, there should be no problem in keeping a few TCP connections alive until one of the dialogs has been confirmed. Also, when chat is in use the GW effectively terminates the media.
>>>
>>> There isn't any way to have a signaling only GW for xmpp-msrp.
>>> So yes, you are right about that. Its only an issue for RTP media.
>>>
>>
>> Do, do you (or anyone) still think that any text on this regard is needed in the *core* document, or shall we just put that in the media one?
>
> I think this belongs in the -media document. Let's change the thread
> name accordingly. :-)
>
> Peter
>