Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translations have Require: ice?
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Thu, 20 March 2014 03:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translations have Require: ice?
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Once again, my apologies for the slow reply. On 1/9/14, 10:31 AM, Jonathan Lennox wrote: > I was thinking about the issue that unlike RFC 5245, XEP-176's > definition of ICE doesn't support fallback to a non-ICE mode. Correct. > It occurred to me that SIP has a way of saying "do ICE, or fail the > call": putting a "Require: ice" SIP option tag (from RFC 5768) in the > SIP INVITE. > > Should we recommend this? It clearly has the right semantics, and > will prevent interop failure when a non-ICE SIP endpoint answers a > XEP-176 Jingle call. Theoretically that makes sense. > My concern, though, is whether there are a) endpoints that implement > RFC 5245 but not RFC 5768, or b) non-media-terminating B2BUAs that > will pass ICE parameters through, but will reject calls with Require > headers they don't know. In either of these cases, adding this > Require header would cause a call that would otherwise have worked to > fail. That would be bad. > Any thoughts, especially from folks who know the state of deployed > SIP better than I do? Inquiring minds want to know. :-) Peter
- [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translations ha… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Emil Ivov
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Emil Ivov
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Stox] Stox-media: Should XEP-176 translation… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet