Re: [sunset4] CGN document for consideration

Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Wed, 02 May 2012 00:19 UTC

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Le 2012-05-01 à 19:27, Reinaldo Penno a écrit :

> Hi Marc,
> 
> A CGN is a NAPT44 which shares IP address across subscribers. It is fundamentally NAPT44. 

yes, I know what it is … ;-) , but:

as the charter says, we need to demonstrate/convince that CGN is an IPv4 sunsetting technology, based on the following criteria:

<charter_extract>
before the working  group adopts any technology, it must: 

1) describe the problem to be solved and show that there is widespread 
demand for a solution 
2) demonstrate that the problem can not be solved with existing 
technologies 
3) provide a description of the proposed solution along with the 
impact on current IPv4-only use and its ability to promote the 
deployment of IPv6 
</charter_extract>

This is what the charter says.

So before adopting CGN documents, we need to demonstrate that CGN is a sunset4 technology. When demonstrated, then we can work on CGN/NAPT44 topics.  Right now, based on charter, we can't yet work on CGN/NAPT44.

Marc.


> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Reinaldo
> 
> From: Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 18:44:27 -0400
> To: Reinaldo Penno <repenno@cisco.com>
> Cc: <sunset4@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [sunset4] CGN document for consideration
> 
>> the current charter milestones are:
>> 1) Review current Carrier-Grade NAT (CGN) documents … determine if CGN is 
>> a suitable sunsetting technology to become a work item...
>> 2) Gap analysis of IPv4 features to facilitate IPv4 sunsetting
>> 
>> Your document says: " This document focuses solely on NAPT44…"
>> 
>> How do you see your document fulfilling milestone 1 or 2 ?
>> 
>> Marc.
>> 
>> Le 2012-05-01 à 18:01, Reinaldo Penno a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I would like to submit this document to the WG for consideration.
>>> 
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-penno-behave-rfc4787-5382-5508-bis-02
>>> 
>>> I'm assuming that port allocation method drafts should be submitted to
>>> this WG.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Reinaldo
>>> 
>>> 
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