Re: [sunset4] to summarize Lorzeno's "drive-by" attack on draft-ietf-sunset4-noipv4

Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> Mon, 28 July 2014 20:17 UTC

Return-Path: <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
X-Original-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85D11B28AE for <sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bb5v-zGB0_-M for <sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from shell-too.nominum.com (shell-too.nominum.com [64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE2421A0140 for <sunset4@ietf.org>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090171B8505 for <sunset4@ietf.org>; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-02.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B105B190052; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [172.19.131.156] (12.130.116.84) by CAS-02.WIN.NOMINUM.COM (192.168.1.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:17:02 -0700
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\))
From: Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
In-Reply-To: <6D291158-F0C6-4BE4-851B-366B2F0B2540@cisco.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:16:50 -0700
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID: <13154328-4C85-4E8D-850A-8E5498E5276B@nominum.com>
References: <11190.1406240244@sandelman.ca> <C12A07EA-E27A-4EAF-A9DE-536FF22A0395@cisco.com> <3B647D53-0E22-43C3-892D-319C9109248C@nominum.com> <53D6559B.2090300@jive.com> <C38ED5E4-5088-4877-9A9F-160EAFCA9938@nominum.com> <6D291158-F0C6-4BE4-851B-366B2F0B2540@cisco.com>
To: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6)
X-Originating-IP: [12.130.116.84]
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sunset4/jwBX1Gy1P97GcqydLEw20J69t-M
Cc: Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com>, sunset4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [sunset4] to summarize Lorzeno's "drive-by" attack on draft-ietf-sunset4-noipv4
X-BeenThere: sunset4@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: sunset4 working group discussion list <sunset4.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/sunset4>, <mailto:sunset4-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sunset4/>
List-Post: <mailto:sunset4@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sunset4-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sunset4>, <mailto:sunset4-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 20:17:06 -0000

On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com> wrote:
> Simon bought up an interesting point that an attacker abusing NOIPV4 needs only send a few packets and would have a lasting impact.  The attacker need not stay on the network to have a lasting impact.

Yup, that's what I said too.   Dunno why we're still talking about it!   :)