Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 27 May 2015 12:09 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy
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Thanks Susan, I finally found the time to read draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model and I think I roughly understand what it tries to do. /js On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:43:42PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote: > Juregen: > > The IDR Working group is progressing the documents for the BGP policy based > on a combination of the draft > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model/ and the draft: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhdankin-idr-bgp-cfg. This work has > been ongoing for over 18 months. A merged draft will be out later this > month. > > The authors have agreed to start with the policy > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model, and iterate > from this point. > > This is the base BGP work, and upon this foundation other BGP work will be > expanded. BGP policy for L2VPN, L3VPN, EVPN is being considered in BESS, > but it depend on the base BGP work plus extensions to cover other BGP > configuration and policy. > > My understanding is that policy is a layered approach going from application > to AS/Network layer, to device layer. Please see my understanding of the > policy layers below. I would appreciate any insight you have > > Sue > > Policy layers: > Application layer policies (intent based) > AS / Network-wide policy (SUPA policies, IDR SLA policies, L3SM policies > AS / Network-wide topologies (I2RS client view of topology, ALTO topology) > Device policy for dynamic abstract topologies (I2RS agent Topology, I2RS > agent RIB, I2RS agent FB-RIBs) > Device policy for dynamic policy for protocol (ISIS, OSPF, BGP, SFC, SPRING, > MPLS) > Device policy for dynamic routes (ISIS, OSPF, BGP) > Device policy for static routes > Device policy for interfaces > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:41 AM > To: Susan Hares > Cc: 'John Strassner'; supa@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:33:44AM -0400, Susan Hares wrote: > > John and others: > > > > Could you please describe how SUPA policy interacts with the BGP > > policy and dynamic BGP policy? > > We can try. To avoid misunderstandings, can you tell us which BGP documents > we specifically should look at? > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > Supa mailing list > Supa@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/supa > > _______________________________________________ > Supa mailing list > Supa@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/supa -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Susan Hares
- Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Susan Hares
- Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Susan Hares
- Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy Susan Hares