Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy

["Susan Hares" <[e-mail]>]

Juergen: 

It is understandable why you do not like cross posting.  I will summarize to
the IDR list key points. This is part of the chairs duties. 

Sue 

-----Original Message-----
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:[e-mail]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:57 AM
To: Susan Hares
Cc: 'John Strassner'; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy

Out of the various choices to send comments, I picked one and I am sorry if
it might not have been the best one. I personally strongly dislike
cross-postings.

/js

PS: I check the rtgwg archive but could not find much discussion there
    either hence I thought I pick one of the other choices. Anyway,
    this has nothing to do with SUPA directly either (and hence people
    following SUPA now might be confused as well).

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 06:58:24AM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> Juergen: 
> 
> As you have noticed in message to Anees, this definition for prefix 
> lists has problems. It would be good to send these comments to the 
> rtgwg WG.  You can either also cross-post to IDR or I will summarize this
work to IDR.
> 
> Sue
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder 
> [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:09 AM
> To: Susan Hares
> Cc: 'John Strassner'; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy
> 
> Thanks Susan,
> 
> I finally found the time to read draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model and I 
> think I roughly understand what it tries to do.
> 
> /js
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:43:42PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> > Juregen:
> > 
> > The IDR Working group is progressing the documents for the BGP 
> > policy based on a combination of the draft
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model/   and the
> draft:
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhdankin-idr-bgp-cfg.   This work
> has
> > been ongoing for over 18 months.   A merged draft will be out later this
> > month. 
> > 
> > The authors have agreed to start with the policy 
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-rtgwg-policy-model, and 
> > iterate from this point.
> > 
> > This is the base BGP work, and upon this foundation other BGP work will
be
> > expanded.   BGP policy for L2VPN, L3VPN, EVPN is being considered in
BESS,
> > but it depend on the base BGP work plus extensions to cover other 
> > BGP configuration and policy.
> > 
> > My understanding is that policy is a layered approach going from
> application
> > to AS/Network layer, to device layer.   Please see my understanding of
the
> > policy layers below.  I would appreciate any insight you have
> > 
> > Sue
> > 
> > Policy layers: 
> > Application layer policies (intent based) AS / Network-wide policy 
> > (SUPA policies, IDR SLA policies, L3SM policies AS / Network-wide 
> > topologies (I2RS client view of topology, ALTO topology) Device 
> > policy for dynamic abstract topologies (I2RS agent Topology, I2RS 
> > agent RIB, I2RS agent FB-RIBs) Device policy for dynamic policy for 
> > protocol (ISIS, OSPF, BGP, SFC, SPRING,
> > MPLS)
> > Device policy for dynamic routes (ISIS, OSPF, BGP) Device policy for 
> > static routes Device policy for interfaces
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Supa [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Juergen 
> > Schoenwaelder
> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:41 AM
> > To: Susan Hares
> > Cc: 'John Strassner'; [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [Supa] BGP and SUPA policy
> > 
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:33:44AM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> > > John and others: 
> > > 
> > > Could you please describe how SUPA policy interacts with the BGP 
> > > policy and dynamic BGP policy?
> > 
> > We can try. To avoid misunderstandings, can you tell us which BGP 
> > documents we specifically should look at?
> > 
> > /js
> > 
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Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
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Fax:   [phone]         <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>