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Re: [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-08

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-08
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> 
> I think it would be great if Section 3 was expanded into a "protocol 
> model" https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4101 in particular to expand on

[Med] Section 3 is purposely edited "to quickly grasp the essence of" the convert protocol. It focuses on the main design rationale that is use one single SYN to supply data to a converter. That supplied data is unambiguously distinguished by means of TLVs and location within the payload.  

[phil] that's exactly the purpose of a protocol model. The full protocol description is just for people who need to understand the details, implementers etc.
Anyway, I leave you to think about it and edit as you feel best.

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