Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02
Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> Thu, 28 September 2006 03:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02
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At 13:42 26/09/2006, Gorry Fairhurst wrote: >It is only necessary to mandate an algorithm, if things break >without it. This doesn't seem to be what you are saying, so I'd >suggest (a) too. Agreed. Will update the draft accordingly, then. >I'd prefer to say that the used value MUST be larger than the >measured RTO. So does that imply if RTO increases above the current >user time out that something needs to happen, we need to get the >correct language here. Any suggestions? I think there are two possible ways to go here: a) Enforcing a minimum UTO of a RTO only when *choosing* the UTO. (i., connections establishment, API call from the application, or receipt of an UTO from the remote endpoint). After all, the UTO is meant more to increase the User Timeout than to decrease it (therefore, users are expected to use long UTOs, rather than short ones). And this keeps things simple... b) Everytime the RTO is updated, it should be rounded to the next higher value in seconds. If the current User Timeout is less than this value, the User Timeout should be updated, and an UTO should be sent to the remote TCP endpoint. This is probably "the right thing to do". But makes things a little more complicated. Any thoughts? Kindest regards, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 _______________________________________________ tcpm mailing list tcpm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-02 Fernando Gont