Re: [tcpm] More option space on any segment: draft-briscoe-tcpm-inner-space-00 (was syn-op-sis-02)

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Mon, 20 October 2014 18:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] More option space on any segment: draft-briscoe-tcpm-inner-space-00 (was syn-op-sis-02)
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On 10/19/2014 5:58 PM, Bob Briscoe wrote:
> Chairs and list,
> 
> My individual draft has a new file-name (and title): inner-space-00
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tcpm-inner-space-00>
> This is a major rev of syn-op-sis-02
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tcpm-syn-op-sis-02>, but I
> won't be using that name any more.
> Sorry to confuse everyone by changing the name. But the old name was no
> longer relevant.
> 
> I believe the new Inner Space protocol could be a significant advance
> for TCP.

IMO, you're on the path to implementing TCP inside TCP.

That is, right up until a middlebox starts parsing and modifying the
inner TCP, at which point you'll need TCP-in-TCP-in-TCP, ad infinitum.

IMO this whole exercise is a significant step backwards, except as a
good example of why we need constraints for middleboxes.

Joe