Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01
"Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]" <wesley.m.eddy@nasa.gov> Thu, 14 May 2009 14:21 UTC
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From: "Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]" <wesley.m.eddy@nasa.gov>
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:22:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01
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Making SACK mandatory is far outside the scope of this draft and the WGLC ... I think it should be in a separate thread if we want to consider it, and not impact the near-term progress of this draft, as this is a much larger (and harder) topic. The authors can probably speak to the second point about pegging the retransmit threshold to the observed reordering, but I would guess that the challenge there lies in measuring the observed reordering within resource limitations. --------------------------- Wes Eddy Network & Systems Architect Verizon FNS / NASA GRC Office: (216) 433-6682 --------------------------- >-----Original Message----- >From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:iljitsch@muada.com] >Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:05 AM >To: Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon] >Cc: tcpm@ietf.org; k.avrachenkov@sophia.inria.fr; Josh@core3.amsl.com; >mallman@icir.org; Blanton >Subject: Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 > >On 13 mei 2009, at 20:36, Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon] wrote: > >> TCP Maintainers & Minor Extenders: The WGLC came and went on the >> Early Retransmit draft without a single comment. If it really is >> perfect, then someone should speak up and say so :). > >I think the non-SACK stuff should be removed and that the use of SACK >should be made mandatory. > >First of all, this doesn't matter in practice because everybody (for a >large value of "everybody") supports SACK today anyway. > >Second, allowing people to pick and choose arbitrarily is a bad >precedent and undermines our work. > >I would like to see the fast retransmit threshold be dependent on the >actually observed reordering, but I don't think that would work in the >common use case addressed here, were the whole session is over after a >handful of segments.
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- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Joshua Blanton
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] WGLC on draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-01 Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[Verizon]