Re: [tcpm] [tcpinc] TCP Stealth - possible interest to the WG

Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net> Wed, 20 August 2014 12:33 UTC

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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:33:05 +0200
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From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] [tcpinc] TCP Stealth - possible interest to the WG
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On 20 August 2014 14:21, Scheffenegger, Richard <rs@netapp.com> wrote:

> TSecr SHOULD be zero on SYN, (even though some implementations didn't adhere to this), and MUST NOT be interpreted when ACK is not set.

Yes, my intention was the following: all currently discussed ideas
"abuse" TCP fields in some way - they have a meaning, functionality.
But touching TSecr in the initial SYN has no meaning, in particular it
SHOULD be zero. Why not change this to something like this: the TSecr
in the first packet can serve as a stealth cookie and could be any
value. It is up to the implementation .... You know what I mean.

Hagen