Re: [tcpm] Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with COMMENT)

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Thu, 30 September 2021 19:56 UTC

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 12:55:39 -0700
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with COMMENT)
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 06:08:23PM -0700, Erik Kline via Datatracker wrote:
[...]
> [S3.5, question]
> 
> * Is there an example of what possible use a RST w/ data could serve?
> 
>   I didn't see anything in S3.10.7(.*) that indicated the data in a segment
>   with the RST flag set could get processed (I may have missed it).

Section 4.2.2.12 of RFC 1122 (sorry, the section link doesn't work, though
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1122.html#page-87 gets most of the way
there) has:

            A TCP SHOULD allow a received RST segment to include data.

            DISCUSSION
                 It has been suggested that a RST segment could contain
                 ASCII text that encoded and explained the cause of the
                 RST.  No standard has yet been established for such
                 data.

-Ben