Re: [tcpm] Joe Touch: [Tsvwg] new I-D: TCP Simple AuthenticationOption

Joe,

I don't think that Graceful Restart will be available in call cases. For
example, it is likely to be unavailable on eBGP sessions between
providers and their customers.

                                   Ron

Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> Barry Greene (bgreene) wrote:
> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>>>You may or may not be right regarding this issue. However, 
>>>
>>>the point 
>>>
>>>>is moot. For better or worse, that decision was made years 
>>>
>>>ago and BGP 
>>>
>>>>became the infrastructure upon which interdomain routing is based. 
>>>>This isn't about to change any time soon.
>>>
>>>It is already changing, if it hasn't already - the relevant 
>>>IDs are cited in my draft.
>>
>>Where? I don't see that nor conversations which lead me to believe there
>>is movement to push for a major change on massive consensus and working
>>code with our SP routing protocol practice today.
>>
>>If there is some WG discussing this, please clue me in.
> 
> 
> ...
> This problem has already been addressed in extensions to BGP and BGP
>    for MPLS, in a mechanism known as "graceful restart" [Re05][Sa04].
> ...
>    [Re05]    Rekhter, Y., R. Aggarwal, "Graceful Restart Mechanism for
>              BGP with MPLS," draft-ietf-mpls-bgp-mpls-restart-05, (work
>              in progress), Aug. 2005.
> 
>    [Sa04]    Sangli, S., Y. Rekhter, R. Fernando, J. Scudder, E. Chen,
>              "Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP," draft-ietf-idr-
>              restart-10 (work in progress), June 2004.
> 
> The latter was an unfortunately old reference; there was a -11 version
> issued in May 2006, and a new version issued just 2 days ago:
> 
> draft-ietf-idr-restart-12 	Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP 	 Srihari
> Sangli 	idr 	12-Jun-06
> 
> I encourage you to visit the IDR WG and ask them this question. Also
> OSPF as per below, if of interest.
> 
> Some others missed in the first version of the draft (it was a -00 ;-):
> 
> RFC4167 Graceful OSPF Restart Implementation Report  	A. Lindem 	October
> 2005 	ASCII 	  	INFORMATIONAL
> 
> RFC3623 Graceful OSPF Restart  	J. Moy, P. Pillay-Esnault, A. Lindem
> November 2003 	ASCII 	  	PROPOSED STANDARD
> 
> RFC3478 Graceful Restart Mechanism for Label Distribution Protocol  	M.
> Leelanivas, Y. Rekhter, R. Aggarwal 	February 2003 	ASCII 	  	PROPOSED
> STANDARD
> 
> draft-holla-ospf-update-graceful-restart-01 	Update to OSPF Graceful
> Restart procedure 	Ashok Holla 	individual 	10-Mar-06
> 
> draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-graceful-restart-04 	OSPFv3 Graceful Restart
> Padma Pillay-Esnault, Acee Lindem 	ospf 	8-May-06
> 
> Joe
> 
> 

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