Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard errors -> soft errors (in synchronized states)
Lloyd Wood <l.wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk> Fri, 30 September 2005 20:26 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Joe Touch wrote: > Fernando Gont wrote: > > At 03:36 p.m. 30/09/2005, Joe Touch wrote: > ... > >> > "The strength of a chain is that of the weakest link", I mean. > >> > >> But TCP-antispoof explains that the chain is already sufficiently weak > >> in many cases even if you try to fix ICMP. > > > > It's weak. But we are making it weaker unnecessarily. > > What's weaker than weak enough? (and why would we need to modify a core > Internet protocol if it's still weak enough)? Using bad rhetoric and word games against someone with English as a second language is bad form. Strengthening ICMP and TCP where reasonable and possible seem entirely sensible to me and in line with the mandate of this workgroup. Joe - you don't have to kill -everything- you hadn't thought of first, and some of us would respect you more if you didn't. L. <http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/><L.Wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk> _______________________________________________ tcpm mailing list tcpm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard errors … Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Jakob Heitz
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- tcpm-antispoof and TCP's weakness [Re: [tcpm] ICM… Pekka Savola
- Re: tcpm-antispoof and TCP's weakness [Re: [tcpm]… Joe Touch
- Re: tcpm-antispoof and TCP's weakness [Re: [tcpm]… Pekka Savola