Re: [Teas] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-teas-native-ip-scenarios-09: (with DISCUSS)

[Magnus Westerlund <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

I have cleared my discuss after today's IESG telechat discussion. 

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund



On Thu, 2019-10-03 at 17:56 +0800, Aijun Wang wrote:
> Hi, Magnus:
> Thanks for your review.
> 
> For your consideration, would you like to read the responses from Deborah at 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/vKTyDcXfeVMhNp5v9JyJhq-u0hc in this
> topic?
> Anyway, it is not one sole document for descriptions the scenarios and
> simulation results. It is the base document of others two documents. I have
> expressed such information in several responses(for example the responses to
> Benjamin 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/YpIuzQg4oYT--BWhyeQfAj9YGx4  and
> wish they can also convince you for future vote.
> 
> Aijun Wang
> China Telecom
> 
> > On Oct 3, 2019, at 17:43, Magnus Westerlund via Datatracker <
> > [e-mail]> wrote:
> > 
> > Magnus Westerlund has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-teas-native-ip-scenarios-09: Discuss
> > 
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> > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
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> > 
> > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-native-ip-scenarios/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
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> > 
> > I also think IESG and the WG really should have a discussion if this
> > document
> > should be published at all. In addition to the points raised by Benjamin I
> > want
> > to add my view to this.
> > 
> > The document in its current form appear to be outside of TEAS Charter. This
> > document is none of the several things TEAS is approved to work with. As
> > Benjamin enumerates so well the document is also a very poor support or
> > architecture document. Which is why I would argue that it fully outside of
> > the
> > TEAS charter as neither a main objective of the WG or a support document.
> > 
> > Even if fixed to be a better support document, I still think the WG should
> > consider its charter and the IESG statement on support documents:
> > https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/support-documents/ and ask
> > themselves if that is really something that is worth publishing.
> > 
> > 
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Cheers

Magnus Westerlund 


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