Re: [Techspec] Additional comment on draft-mankin-pub-req-08
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Wed, 14 June 2006 09:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Techspec] Additional comment on draft-mankin-pub-req-08
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I think this is a positioning matter. This draft is indeed an IETF work product and talks about IETF requirements. Whether the other publication streams identified in draft-iab-rfc-editor choose to adopt these requirements is their business. As Elwyn said (just before leaving on vacation, btw) the document *could* be reorganised to suggest which are generic and which are IETF-specific. But as long as it's an IETF document, that could only be a suggestion. Given the timeline we're working to, I personally wouldn't recommend major surgery on the document for that purpose. Brian John C Klensin wrote: > (resending a slightly modified version from the correct address > -- sorry) > > --On Monday, 12 June, 2006 18:19 +0100 Elwyn Davies > <elwynd@googlemail.com> wrote: > > >>I appreciate that the last call is strictly over, but one >>extra point came to mind when considering >>draft-iab-rfc-editor-00. >> >>The requirements in draft-mankin split into two parts: >>- Those that are specific to the IETF document 'stream' - >>most;y the 'front end' of the process >>- Those that apply mainly to the back end of the process and >>are relevant to any documents that are published by the RFC >>Editor >> >>For convenience when specifying requirements for IAB and IRTF >>documents etc it would be helpful if the two types of >>requirements were split into separate sections for easier >>cross referencing. > > > Elwyn, > > This is, of course, one of the meta-problems with the document > that several of us have tried to point out in different ways. > The community has been repeatedly assured that it applies _only_ > to the IETF document stream. If that is true, then the material > you describe as "generic" is advisory at best. At worst, it > needs separate evaluation via other processes. > > If it is not true, then the document needs an entirely different > type of review and the IESG may not be an appropriate body to > manage that review. > > Of course, those comments don't make your suggestion about > reorganizing the document and clearly identifying applicability > any less useful. > > john > > > _______________________________________________ > Techspec mailing list > Techspec@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/techspec > > _______________________________________________ Techspec mailing list Techspec@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/techspec
- Re: [Techspec] Additional comment on draft-mankin… John C Klensin
- [Techspec] Additional comment on draft-mankin-pub… Elwyn Davies
- Re: [Techspec] Additional comment on draft-mankin… Elwyn Davies
- Re: [Techspec] Additional comment on draft-mankin… Brian E Carpenter