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Re: [Terminology] WG Review: Effective Terminology in IETF Documents (term)

Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> Mon, 05 April 2021 14:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Terminology] WG Review: Effective Terminology in IETF Documents (term)
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I removed restrictions to the text. Your point about IETF creativity on 
these terms may be right 99% of the time, and suggest that this be a 
major consideration whenever recommendations are made. But to restrict 
the charter at this stage seems like it would be unhelpful possibly in 
the future.

-Mallory

On 4/5/21 10:26 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Sorry I didn’t pay attention to this discussion yet.
> I don’t think the IETF should become creative in what terminology it wants to shun.
> The proposed charter text was exactly right as it was.
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>
>
>> On 2021-03-30, at 22:55, Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> wrote:
>>
>> Sure, change this sentence:
>>
>> The WG will identify and recommend an external, independently-updated resource containing examples of potentially problematic terms and potential alternatives to IETF participants, in order to align its efforts with broader activities by the technology industry.
>>
>> To:
>>
>> The WG will identify and recommend language resources on inclusive terminology and potential alternatives to problematic terms to IETF participants, in order to align its efforts with broader activities by the technology industry.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Mallory
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
>> Hi Mallory,
>>
>> thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> On 2021-3-26, at 19:11, Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> wrote:
>>> 2) Acknowledge that in some cases it will make sense for the IETF to be the authority on certain terminology as it relates to the IETF mandate, whereas others will need to be external given the mandates of other bodies. In other words, I don't think the IETF should abdicate all of its responsibility for setting standards with the best terminology, as it sees fit.
>> Could you make a suggestion for what text changes you'd like to see to address this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lars
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Mallory Knodel
>> CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology
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Mallory Knodel
CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology
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