Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1140715] Fwd: Application for the TLS code points (draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc)

Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com> Tue, 23 April 2019 07:13 UTC

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Dear all

Thanks very much to help provided in assigning the code points for signature algorithms included in the TLS-IBC draft. 

Have a nice day. 

Haiguang

-----Original Message-----
From: Amanda Baber via RT [mailto:iana-prot-param@iana.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:04 AM
To: ynir.ietf@gmail.com
Cc: tls-reg-review@ietf.org; Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>; sean@sn3rd.com
Subject: [IANA #1140715] Fwd: [Tls-reg-review] Application for the TLS code points (draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc)

Hi all,

We've added the following entries to the TLS SignatureScheme registry:

Value: 0x0704
Description: eccsi_sha256
Recommended: N
Reference: [draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc]

Value: 0x0705
Description: iso_ibs1
Recommended: N
Reference: [draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc]

Value: 0x0706
Description: iso_ibs2
Recommended: N
Reference: [draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc]

Value: 0x0707
Description: iso_chinese_ibs
Recommended: N
Reference: [draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc]

Please see
https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters

thanks,
Amanda

On Tue Apr 16 21:51:05 2019, ynir.ietf@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, Amanda.
> 
> I don’t see much difference there, so I think starting with 0x0704 
> should be fine.
> 
> > On 17 Apr 2019, at 0:21, Amanda Baber via RT <iana-prot- 
> > param@iana.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Yoav,
> >
> > Which values should we assign for these four registrations? There 
> > are several separate ranges of available values:
> >
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-
> > parameters.xhtml#tls-signaturescheme
> > <https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-
> > parameters.xhtml#tls-signaturescheme>
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Amanda Baber
> > Lead IANA Services Specialist
> >
> > On Tue Apr 16 19:36:57 2019, ynir.ietf@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Rich, Nick and I have discussed this, and we approve this request.
> >>
> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-
> >> 10 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-
> >> ibc-10>
> >> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc
> >> -
> >> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc
> >> -
> >> >
> >> 10>
> >>
> >> Please let us know if there are any problems with it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Yoav
> >> (on behalf of the TLS registry review team)
> >>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
> >>> From: Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>
> >>> Subject: RE: [Tls-reg-review] Application for the TLS code points
> >>> Date: 16 April 2019 at 12:44:43 GMT+3
> >>> To: Nick Sullivan <nick@cloudflare.com>, Yoav Nir 
> >>> <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: "tls-reg-review@ietf.org" <tls-reg-review@ietf.org>, Sean 
> >>> Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
> >>>
> >>> Dear Yoav and Sullivan
> >>>
> >>> I have uploaded the version of TLS-IBC draft version 10 to the 
> >>> IETF data tracker for code points application. The version is the 
> >>> same as the one attached in the previous email.
> >>>
> >>> Following is link to the uploaded draft:
> >>> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-
> >>> 10.pdf
> >>> <https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-
> >>> <https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc->
> >>> 10.pdf>
> >>>
> >>> May I know what other procedure I should do for the application 
> >>> the code points as required in the draft?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very for the help.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>>
> >>> Haiguang
> >>>
> >>> From: Nick Sullivan [mailto:nick@cloudflare.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:24 AM
> >>> To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>; tls-reg- 
> >>> review@ietf.org; Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] Application for the TLS code points
> >>>
> >>> Looks good to me too.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:08 PM Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com 
> >>> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com 
> >>> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>> Looks good to me.
> >>>
> >>> Yoav
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 15 Apr 2019, at 4:26, Wang Haiguang 
> >>> <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Yoav
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very much for your kindness.
> >>>
> >>> I have updated the draft by copying the text you provided in the 
> >>> last email  into the IANA section.
> >>> Please help to check whether the content in the IANA section is 
> >>> appropriate or not.
> >>>
> >>> If it is okay, I will upload this version as a version 10 to the 
> >>> IETF data tracker.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards.
> >>>
> >>> Haiguang
> >>>
> >>> From: Yoav Nir [mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com 
> >>> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com 
> >>> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com>>]
> >>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 5:58 PM
> >>> To: Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>>>
> >>> Cc: tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org> 
> >>> <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>>;
> >>> Sean
> >>> Turner <sean@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com> 
> >>> <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com>>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] Application for the TLS code points
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Haiguang.
> >>>
> >>> This is still not right. The word “reserved” in IANA registries 
> >>> means code points that are not to be assigned. For example, in 
> >>> this registry a lot of ranges are reserved for backward 
> >>> compatibility..
> >>>
> >>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-
> >>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls->
> >>> parameters.xml#tls-signaturescheme
> >>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-
> >>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls->
> >>> parameters.xml#tls-parameters-16>
> >>>
> >>> The way such IANA Considerations sections are usually phrased are 
> >>> something like the following:
> >>>
> >>> IANA is requested to assign 4 code points from the TLS 
> >>> SignatureScheme registry with the following descriptions:
> >>> eccsi_sha256
> >>> iso_ibs1
> >>> iso_ibs2
> >>> iso_chinese_ibs
> >>>
> >>> For all of these entries the Recommended field should be N, and 
> >>> the Reference field should be this document.
> >>>
> >>> Feel free to copy the above text.
> >>>
> >>> Yoav
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12 Apr 2019, at 11:05, Wang Haiguang 
> >>> <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Yoav,
> >>>
> >>> I have updated the TLS-IBC draft, which is version -09, and has 
> >>> been uploaded to the data tracker.
> >>> Following is the link to the updated draft:
> >>> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-
> >>> 09.txt 
> >>> <https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-
> >>> ibc-09.txt>
> >>> <https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-
> >>> <https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc->
> >>> 09.txt>.
> >>>
> >>> In the IANA section, I have removed the request for ECCSI OID as 
> >>> it has already been assigned.
> >>> For the code point, I added following content:
> >>>
> >>> The following TLS code points are required to be assigned:
> >>>
> >>> - Signature Scheme Registry: signature algorithm for 
> >>> eccsi_with_sha256, iso_ibs1, iso_ibs2, iso_chinese_ibs are 
> >>> required to be reserved.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know your comments.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards.
> >>>
> >>> Haiguang
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Wang Haiguang
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:34 PM
> >>> To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com> 
> >>> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com>>>
> >>> Cc: tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org> 
> >>> <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>>;
> >>> Sean
> >>> Turner <sean@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com> 
> >>> <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com>>>
> >>> Subject: RE: [Tls-reg-review] Application for the TLS code points
> >>>
> >>> Dear Yoav,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks very much for the comments.
> >>>
> >>> We will update the draft according to your suggestion and will 
> >>> upload the IETF data tracker soon.
> >>>
> >>> Previously we have submit a version 9, but it seems that version 
> >>> is not the data tracker, so I am going to change the version 
> >>> number to
> >>> 9
> >>> for next submission instead of a 10.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards.
> >>>
> >>> Haiguang
> >>> From: Yoav Nir [ynir.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com> 
> >>> <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com>>]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, 28 March, 2019 1:03:32 PM
> >>> To: Wang Haiguang
> >>> Cc: tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org> 
> >>> <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>>;
> >>> Sean
> >>> Turner
> >>> Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] Application for the TLS code points
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Haiguang
> >>>
> >>> We’ve discussed it, and you can get your code points.  However, 
> >>> there are a few things you need to do first:
> >>> The current draft in the datatracker is version -08, not -10. That 
> >>> version requests just one code point assignment, not 4.  Please 
> >>> submit the updated draft.
> >>> Even in the PDF version of the draft, the four code points appear 
> >>> in section 4, but they do not appear in section 8 (IANA 
> >>> Considerations).
> >>> The IANA considerations section is confusing.  It states that IANA 
> >>> is asked to assign an OID, and in the next bullet point says that 
> >>> this OID has already been assigned.  It’s not clear to me, and it 
> >>> won’t be clear to IANA what you want them to do.
> >>>
> >>> So please get back to us after you submit a revised draft with a 
> >>> fixed section 8, and we will instruct IANA to make the assignment.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> Yoav
> >>> (on behalf of the TLS review team)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 9:58, Wang Haiguang 
> >>> <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com
> >>> <mailto:wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Rich, Yoav and Nick
> >>>
> >>> This is Haiguang Wang from Huawei.
> >>>
> >>> Currently we are working on a personal draft named as draft-wang-
> >>> tls-
> >>> raw-public-key-with-ibc-10.
> >>> We have made a presentation in IETF 104 yesterday. Attached is the 
> >>> our presentation slides and the draft that will be upload to the 
> >>> IETF meeting.
> >>>
> >>> We need 4 code points for four IBS signature algorithms, so please 
> >>> review and let us know whether we can get the four code points for 
> >>> implementation and testing of the protocol.
> >>>
> >>> enum {
> >>> ...
> >>> /* IBS ECCSI signature algorithm */
> >>> eccsi_sha256 (TBD),
> >>> iso_ibs1 (TBD),
> >>> iso_ibs2 (TBD),
> >>> iso_chinese_ibs (TBD),
> >>> /* Reserved Code Points */
> >>> private_use (0xFE00..0xFFFF),
> >>> (0xFFFF)
> >>> } SignatureScheme;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards.
> >>>
> >>> Haiguang
> >>> <draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-10.pdf><slides-104-TLS-raw
> >>> -
> >>> public-key-IBC-
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