Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Fri, 01 May 2020 18:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20
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On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 11:18:58AM -0700, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > Declining this comes across hostile to me. I read the objections to > > "only {0, 0} means zero" as a blocking counter-measure against the > > deferred discussion, and not a material objection on the merits. :-( > > I don't think it's right to say that "only {0,0} means zero" -- after all, > this is a *request*, not a command from the client to the server. And yet, RFC 8446 C.4 says servers SHOULD always send at least one, and so this draft is modifying that to say that it is now "OK" to sometimes send no tickets based on the applicable counter. All I am asking for is that the "OK" condition be made more strict, requiring both counters to zero before C.4 is overriden. The server can still start WW-III upong seeing the extension, but that does not preclude clarity about the *intended* meaning. That's what the MUSTs/SHOULDs/MAYs etc. are for. -- Viktor.
- [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Nick Harper
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [TLS] Ticket request PR#20 Salz, Rich