Re: [TLS] [Fwd: {Virus?} I-D Action:draft-latze-tls-tpm-extns-00.txt]

"Blumenthal, Uri" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Wed, 07 October 2009 15:41 UTC

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And the reason you want to do this instead of using valid X.509 certs is...?


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Subject: [TLS] [Fwd: {Virus?} I-D Action:draft-latze-tls-tpm-extns-00.txt]

Hi all,

after several experiments with TPMs as authentication devices in
EAP-TLS, we figured out, that the specific modifications in order to use
TPMs might be rather an extension to TLS than an EAP extension.
Therefore, we gave it a try and defined a new TLS extension in order to
use TPM certified keys directly with TLS. We are aware of the fact, that
there is a possibility to request new valid X.509 certificates for those
keys which allows to use them with standard TLS (and do not require a
new extension), but since we want to avoid that request (and we think
that this does not introduce any security issues), we propose this
extension.

We are always open for discussions, (critical) feedback, suggestions, ...

Regards
Carolin Latze


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Subject: 	{Virus?} I-D Action:draft-latze-tls-tpm-extns-00.txt
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

	Title           : Transport Layer Security (TLS) Extensions for the Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
	Author(s)       : C. Latze, et al.
	Filename        : draft-latze-tls-tpm-extns-00.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2009-10-07

Trusted Platform Modules (TPMs) become more and more widespread in
modern desktop and laptop computers and provide secure storage and
cryptographic functions.  As one nice feature of TPMs is that they
can be identified uniquely, they provide a good base for device
authentication in protocols like TLS.This document specifies a TLS
extension that allows to use TPM certified keys with TLS in order to
allow for a secure and comfortable device authentication in TLS.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-latze-tls-tpm-extns-00.txt

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