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[TLS] Re: PQ Cipher Suite I-Ds: adopt or not?

Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> Mon, 23 December 2024 01:54 UTC

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From: Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 05:54:24 +0400
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If there are some patent concerns regarding ML-KEM going forward, Would
considering NTRU-Prime as a less risky option for TLS Kex?

(Please see this thread:
https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/patent-license-for-kyber/128114)

There is a section about patents here: https://ntruprime.cr.yp.to/warnings.html


On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 02:53, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I only support an adoption call for this one:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/
>
> The other ones seem like they could wait, carefully noting that postponement is not a "no" vote.
>
> thanks,
> Rob
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> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 2:21 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024, at 08:59, Sean Turner wrote:
>> > Is the WG consensus to run four separate adoption calls for the
>> > individual I-Ds in question?
>>
>> I would like to see adoption calls for the key exchange modes and not the signature modes.  The key exchange documents are both more ready and more urgent.
>>
>> The question of whether to set Recommended = Y for any particular choice is separable and can wait.  Keep things as Recommended = N for now.
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