Re: [TLS] draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-10

Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com> Sun, 24 March 2019 12:05 UTC

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From: Wang Haiguang <wang.haiguang.shieldlab@huawei.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Hi, Stephen

Thanks much for your comments. 

As IBS using a centralized PKG to generate keys for the peer, some users do concern about this feature. 
However, for some usage scenarios such as telecom operators, key escrow is not a issue since 
with the current telecom networks, all the mobile devices embedded with a root key in their USIM card,
which is known to the home operators. So knowing the private keys of devices are not a issue, depends 
on the usage of the keys. 

If users worry about this feature, can we make it an optional feature and only when companies want to use
it, then they can enable this feature or patch the library. 

Best regards.

Haiguang       
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From: Stephen Farrell [stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie]
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Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-wang-tls-raw-public-key-with-ibc-10

Hiya,

On 21/03/2019 13:46, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> In addition, the innherent escrow capability that you describe in Section 7
> is a way in which IBC systems are materially worse than PKI systems in a
> way we don't know how to ameliorate (as opposed to CT).

I agree with Ekr here. I'd go further and argue that applications
really need to be aware that somewhere there's a key generator who
knows all private keys and that it'd be too dangerous for that
kind of difference to be hidden inside a TLS library.

> For these reasons, I don't think this WG should adopt this work, though
> the process allows you to have a code point without adoption.

+1

Cheers,
S.