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Re: [TLS] TLS Provfiles (Was: Call for consensus to remove anonymous DH)

Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Wed, 16 September 2015 21:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS Provfiles (Was: Call for consensus to remove anonymous DH)
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 03:03:54PM -0400, Dave Garrett wrote:

> The suggestion that started this thread was to have a "Standard TLS Profile"
> that actually allowed EXPORT ciphers & SSL3. So yeah, this proposal feels
> like a suggestion to keep allowance of obsolete junk as the norm with
> "defensive" as a separate option, because that's what it specifically
> says.

Object to such a profile, and rather than the idea of profiles.
There is no need for the TLS WG to define any profiles that include
SSL3 or EXPORT ciphers.

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	Viktor.

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