Re: [TLS] Fwd: Last Call: <draft-ietf-kitten-tls-channel-bindings-for-tls13-09.txt> (Channel Bindings for TLS 1.3) to Proposed Standard

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At first glance, hasn’t sufficient analysis been done in:

[VERIFIED-BINDINGS]
               Bhargavan, K., Delignat-Lavaud, A., and A. Pironti,
               "Verified Contributive Channel Bindings for Compound
               Authentication", Network and Distributed System Security
               Symposium (NDSS), 2015.

?

Just a thought?

Michael Ross
NIWC Atlantic
US Navy

From: TLS <tls-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Sam Whited
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 9:37 AM
To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>; Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [TLS] Fwd: Last Call: <draft-ietf-kitten-tls-channel-bindings-for-tls13-09.txt> (Channel Bindings for TLS 1.3) to Proposed Standard

I'd be okay with that provided we can release an update if such an analysis is ever done?

Although this is such a low-stakes issue that I worry that the prejudicial value of such a statement far outweighs the security value. I don't feel strongly about it though.

—Sam
On October 3, 2021 1:06:40 PM UTC, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
Perhaps adding text that says no security analysis has been done.