Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-03.txt

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Thu, 01 February 2018 00:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-03.txt
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> On Jan 31, 2018, at 11:34, Benjamin Kaduk <bkaduk@akamai.com> wrote:
> 
> On the "better late than never" front, I've got some nits:
> 
> OLD:
> 
>        [...] A Standards Track document
>       [
> RFC8126
> ] is REQUIRED to register an extension with the value
>       "Yes".
> 
> NEW:
> 
>       In order to register an extension with the value "Yes", a Standards Track
>       document [RFC8126] is REQUIRED.
> 
> Since not all standards-track documents must register such extensions/cipher suites/etc.  (There are multiple occurrences of this text.)

Fixed (I think) 4x in the following PR:
https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates/pull/58


> Is the "Exporter Value" table in the document supposed to have a "Recommended" column?

Yeah we should add one ;). Address in the PR.

> Let's also double-check that the "WARNING: Cryptographic algorithms[...]" text does not always say "cipher suites listed here", even when talking about (e.g.) HashAlgorithm and SignatureAlgorithm.
> 
> (Also, we can spell "SignatureAlgorithm" as not-"SignarureAlgorithm”.)

Fix in the PR.

> Maybe capitalize "TBD" in "tbd but maybe tls-reg-review@ietf.org”?

Because the list has actually been created I put the email address in the draft (in the PR).

> OLD:
> 
>    Recommended algorithms regarded as secure for general use at the time
>    of registration, however, cryptographic algorithms and parameters
>    will be broken or weakened over time.
> 
> NEW:
> 
>    Recommended algorithms are regarded as secure for general use at the time
>    of registration, however, cryptographic algorithms and parameters
>    will be broken or weakened over time.
> 
> NOTES:
> 
> Add "are" to improve grammar.

Included in PR.

spt

> -Ben
> 
> 
> On 01/31/2018 08:35 AM, Sean Turner wrote:
>> I have one PR that address both the WGLC comments (from mt and ekr):
>> 
>> https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates/pull/57
>> 
>> 
>> If you’ve got other suggested changes let me know and I can submit another PR and do the final merges before you initiate the IETFLC.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> spt
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2018, at 16:54, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great, thank you very much, Stephen!  I'll get it rolling towards
>>> publication with last call starting soon.  I'll do my review in the
>>> next couple of days.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Kathleen
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Stephen Farrell
>>> 
>>> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Kathleen,
>>>> 
>>>> The WGLC for this has expired.
>>>> 
>>>> There was only one explicit comment [1] saying to ship it.
>>>> The WG have chatted about this a bunch of times though so
>>>> FWIW I think it'd be fair to conclude there's pretty good
>>>> consensus for this.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> S.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] 
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg25279.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/01/18 21:34, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hiya,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathleen's a bit busy at the moment so asked that, as shepherd,
>>>>> I kick off the WGLC for this one (as the two chairs are authors).
>>>>> The idea is that I'll summarise the WGLC thread to her and she
>>>>> can then decide if this is ready to move forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So this starts a 2-week WGLC, ending on January 29th.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Shepherdy Stephen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/01/18 13:57, 
>>>>> internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>>>>> This draft is a work item of the Transport Layer Security WG of the IETF.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        Title           : IANA Registry Updates for TLS and DTLS
>>>>>>        Authors         : Joe Salowey
>>>>>>                          Sean Turner
>>>>>>     Filename        : draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-03.txt
>>>>>>     Pages           : 16
>>>>>>     Date            : 2018-01-03
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>>   This document describes a number of changes to (D)TLS IANA registries
>>>>>>   that range from adding notes to the registry all the way to changing
>>>>>>   the registration policy.  These changes were mostly motivated by WG
>>>>>>   review of the (D)TLS-related registries undertaken as part of the
>>>>>>   TLS1.3 development process.  This document updates many (D)TLS RFCs
>>>>>>   (see updates header).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-03
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-03
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-03
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>>>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> PGP key change time for me.
>>>> New-ID 7B172BEA; old-ID 805F8DA2 expires Jan 24 2018.
>>>> NewWithOld sigs in keyservers.
>>>> Sorry if that mucks something up;-)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Kathleen
>>> 
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