Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01

"Ackermann, Michael" <MAckermann@bcbsm.com> Sat, 15 July 2017 19:39 UTC

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From: "Ackermann, Michael" <MAckermann@bcbsm.com>
To: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
CC: Matthew Green <matthewdgreen@gmail.com>, "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>, IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01
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I would be interested in how you initiate the traces at all the  hundreds of thousands of servers and clients and how you control the flow of pcap files back to where they need to be processed?     How are users and apps not impacted?



From: Watson Ladd [mailto:watsonbladd@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 3:26 PM
To: Ackermann, Michael <MAckermann@bcbsm.com>;
Cc: Matthew Green <matthewdgreen@gmail.com>;; Dobbins, Roland <rdobbins@arbor.net>;; IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org>;
Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01



On Jul 15, 2017 11:16 AM, "Ackermann, Michael" <MAckermann@bcbsm.com<mailto:MAckermann@bcbsm.com>> wrote:
YES!
I tried to say in my message that collecting traces on thousands,  or hundreds of thousands of hosts,  is just not practical or possible.   Not to mention the administrative domain barriers to this.


We do it every day at my current employer. Guess we do the impossible.



From: Dobbins, Roland [mailto:rdobbins@arbor.net<mailto:rdobbins@arbor.net>]
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 2:03 PM
To: Ackermann, Michael <MAckermann@bcbsm.com<mailto:MAckermann@bcbsm.com>>
Cc: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com<mailto:mellon@fugue.com>>; IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org<mailto:tls@ietf.org>>; Matthew Green <matthewdgreen@gmail.com<mailto:matthewdgreen@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01



On Jul 15, 2017, at 22:36, Ackermann, Michael <MAckermann@bcbsm.com<mailto:MAckermann@bcbsm.com>> wrote:
That being the unencrypted stream is available to the endpoints

Even where it is eventually available, they don't have the horsepower to capture & forward.

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Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net<mailto:rdobbins@arbor.net>>




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