Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds old draft versions - makes people believe EAP-TLS 1.3 was abandoned 2.5 years ago

Jeffrey Yasskin <> Thu, 25 February 2021 22:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds old draft versions - makes people believe EAP-TLS 1.3 was abandoned 2.5 years ago
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I used to see this a lot with versioned technical documentation, and I
realize I haven't noticed it in a while outside of the IETF. Python
documentation used to do it, but now pages like include a <link
rel="canonical" href="">
that points search engines toward the latest version. This is something of
a mis-use of <link rel=canonical>, since a new version's documentation
isn't a complete replacement for the old version's, but it seems to mostly
work in practice.

Would it make sense for versioned pages like to include a <link
rel=canonical href="">
pointing at the unversioned URL? This still wouldn't help when I-Ds change
names or are published as RFCs, but it would fix the most common instances
of the problem.


On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:49 PM John Mattsson <john.mattsson=> wrote:

> Hi,
> First, thanks for all the great tools.
> For at least the third time in just a few months I have been received
> mails from persons from other SDOs, operating systems, and network
> equipment that is interested in implementing EAP-TLS 1.3 but for some
> reason find version -03 on and thinks it has been
> abandoned 2.5 years ago.
> I don't know why they find -03, but a Google search for "eap tls 1.3
> tools" seems to give that as the first result.
> There seems to be some bug in tools so that no newer versions that -04
> show up when you look at -03. (Actually clicking on -04 makes all versions
> pop up, but obviously many people do not realize that...)
> If adoption of IETF standards into product and other SDOs get delayed that
> is quite a big problem.
> It there anything more than just fixing the bug that can be done? Could
> tools somehow warn the reader that there is a newer version available?
> Maybe with a stylish <blink> tag ;)
> Cheers,
> John
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