Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds old draft versions - makes people believe EAP-TLS 1.3 was abandoned 2.5 years ago
Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin@google.com> Thu, 25 February 2021 22:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds old draft versions - makes people believe EAP-TLS 1.3 was abandoned 2.5 years ago
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I used to see this a lot with versioned technical documentation, and I realize I haven't noticed it in a while outside of the IETF. Python documentation used to do it, but now pages like https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/subprocess.html include a <link rel="canonical" href="https://docs.python.org/3/library/subprocess.html"> that points search engines toward the latest version. This is something of a mis-use of <link rel=canonical>, since a new version's documentation isn't a complete replacement for the old version's, but it seems to mostly work in practice. Would it make sense for versioned pages like https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 to include a <link rel=canonical href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13"> pointing at the unversioned URL? This still wouldn't help when I-Ds change names or are published as RFCs, but it would fix the most common instances of the problem. Jeffrey On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:49 PM John Mattsson <john.mattsson= 40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi, > > First, thanks for all the great tools. > > For at least the third time in just a few months I have been received > mails from persons from other SDOs, operating systems, and network > equipment that is interested in implementing EAP-TLS 1.3 but for some > reason find version -03 on tools.ietf.org and thinks it has been > abandoned 2.5 years ago. > > I don't know why they find -03, but a Google search for "eap tls 1.3 > tools" seems to give that as the first result. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 > > There seems to be some bug in tools so that no newer versions that -04 > show up when you look at -03. (Actually clicking on -04 makes all versions > pop up, but obviously many people do not realize that...) > > If adoption of IETF standards into product and other SDOs get delayed that > is quite a big problem. > > It there anything more than just fixing the bug that can be done? Could > tools somehow warn the reader that there is a newer version available? > Maybe with a stylish <blink> tag ;) > > Cheers, > John > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > List info (including how to Unsubscribe): > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >
- [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds ol… John Mattsson
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- Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only find… Jeffrey Yasskin