Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds old draft versions - makes people believe EAP-TLS 1.3 was abandoned 2.5 years ago

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 24 February 2021 08:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] People outside IETF only finds old draft versions - makes people believe EAP-TLS 1.3 was abandoned 2.5 years ago
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On 24. Feb 2021, at 08:49, John Mattsson <john.mattsson=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> There seems to be some bug in tools so that no newer versions that -04 show up when you look at -03. (Actually clicking on -04 makes all versions pop up, but obviously many people do not realize that…)

The swallowing of some updates is a long-standing bug with the tools.ietf.org presentation of documents that really, really, really needs to be fixed.

What we are not going to be able to fix is that google favours older over newer documents.
So the landing pages for older documents always need the links to the newer ones (or, more generally, status information).
The attempt to have static information (this document expires in…) inside the archived document is misdirected.
(That information is nearly always wrong and misleading.)

I know that there is some aversion to JavaScript, but the metadata.js approach for the 8650+ RFCs looks exactly right to me; we could do the same for I-Ds to emulate the usefulness that the tools.ietf.org pages gave us (when updated right).

Grüße, Carsten