Re: [Tools-discuss] [Manycouches] Closing the chat trial instances

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 15 September 2021 19:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Manycouches] Closing the chat trial instances
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Pity about the matrix gateway going.

If it were possible to document how someone with e.g.
their own homeserver could setup interop with the ongoing
IETF IM services that'd be great. I understand if that's
not a priority and might need some possibly tricky
anti-spam policies to be setup/agreed. I'd be willing
to try setup interop with my homeserver if that were a
possibility sometime.

Cheers,
S.



On 15/09/2021 17:14, Robert Sparks wrote:
> All -
> 
> We are turning off the chat trial instances. This includes:
> 
> xmpp-trial1.ietf.org, matrix-trial1.ief.org, and zulip-trial1.ietf.org
> 
> We've kept them running quite a bit longer than originally planned, and 
> we think we have the information we needed to gather from them.
> 
> Going forward:
> 
> We are in the process of setting up a standing Zulip server and will 
> investigate whether we can integrate that directly with Meetecho as the 
> backend for messaging during Meetecho sessions. We will have XMPP-Zulip 
> bridging in place as long as both services are active. See the service 
> plan at 
> https://github.com/rjsparks/zulip-implementation/blob/main/Service-Plan.md
> 
> We received feedback from a small number of people that providing a 
> Jabber login service was useful, but haven't seen a lot of use of it. 
> We're not currently planning on providing this service going forward. 
> Anyone relying on it should take advantage of other existing services. 
> There is an updated list of alternatives at 
> https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/groupchat/.
> 
> We are not planning to continue provide a Matrix service. Interest was 
> limited, and it presented a more difficult set of operational 
> challenges. See 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-discuss/AI5hBp1qnLAH-S9T7XhLF-omFS0/ 
> 
> 
> We have heard and continue to keep in mind the feedback to prefer IETF 
> standards.
> 
> Timing:
> 
> The matrix trial server will be taken down now.
> The xmpp trial server will be taken down in two weeks, giving the few 
> people who had been using it an opportunity to set up something else.
> The zulip trial server will be taken down shortly after the standing 
> server is made available to the community.
> 
> Please take care to send all discussion to tools-discuss@ietf.org
> 
> RjS
> 
> 
> 
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