Re: [Tools-discuss] Mixed content error on new datatracker stylesheet

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Mon, 13 April 2015 22:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Mixed content error on new datatracker stylesheet
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On 13 April 2015 at 15:00, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>  Please don't use the list as an issue tracker, there are links in the
> list footer to the actual issue tracker.

You mean https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/newticket ?

Every time I click on a trac link it takes so long to load that I
think that it's broken.  This one takes more than 15 seconds to get to
an error page; I thought it was broken after 5.

>  ,,:-)  We have different ideas about the degree of ornamentation provided
> by the PT fonts, but I'll look for some better fallback fonts.

As I said, this is largely down to taste.  Largely.

If the primary isn't broken, I don't think that you need to spend time
on fallback fonts that are hardly ever going to be seen.

>> Style nit: The summary table for drafts could use a max-width
>> directive on either the whole table or just the first two columns.
>
> Url, please?

Not sure what you are looking for, but I tend to view this sort of
page on a fairly wide view:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-sslv3-diediedie/

On a very wide screen, the table layout tends to give an unnecessary
amount of space to those first two columns.

You can use empty <col> elements [1] and max-width directives [2] if
you want more precise control and to allow for more content in the
third column.  Or you could simply cap the width of the table, or the
page.

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/col
[2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/max-width

p.s., the new look is otherwise a lot better.