Re: [Tools-discuss] Include mail archive permalinks in mailing list messages

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 26 June 2013 17:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Include mail archive permalinks in mailing list messages
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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:

    > Right now, when I dig out an old message out of my mail reader and I
    > want to point other people to it, I need to google the contents to find
    > it in the IETF mail archive in order to obtain the permalink.
    > This is tedious, and worse, it leads to people not referencing old
    > discussions as much as would be healthy.

I agree that it would be a good thing.

    > Why doesn't each message carry its own permalink at the time I get it?

From a technical point of view, because the process looks like:

MTA->mailman->Q
Q->qrunner--->MTA -> your copy
          --->pipermail -> archive copy

To do what you suggest, it would have to be put into the archive before it
was sent to you, so that the URL would be known.  Perhaps a better way would
be to have pipermail provide an interface to find a message by Message-ID:,
I'd just want to find a way to do that mapping without invoking an active
component, so that the list archives are just files.

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