Re: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: Datatracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-dnsop-shared-root-server-01.txt>

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:07:01AM -0500, Robert Sparks wrote:
> Hi Tim -
> 
> This one is frustrating - whichever way we state it (old to new, or new from
> old), several people chime in and want it the other way.
> 
> The last time we went through this, several IESG members pushed for the
> current form since it puts the most important bit of information (the state
> _now_) first.

*Rotfl*

  State changed to None from WG Document
  You must unlearn what you have learned
  Named must be your fear before banish it you can

Kidding aside:

I think it is appropriate to let those who have to work with
Datatracker the most have the first pass at it's interface, but if there is
a conflict, maybe a compromise would be to change it slightly to something
that looks more like maybe router CLI instead of english yoda.

   State now: "None", prior: "WG Document"

Cheers
    Toerless

> We even with through iterations where we split the information onto multiple
> lines, and tried to emphasize (in plain-text) the new state, but pushback
> landed us where we are.
> 
> (Note that the new state is bolded on this history page for the document).
> 
> We can add quotes, and it would be nice to get other suggestions for how to
> make the message more useful - for instance, would it be helpful for the
> email message to say _who_ changed the state?
> 
> RjS
> 
> 
> On 6/19/21 1:47 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote:
> > 
> > I have a silly question.   In these emails, the state change is
> > 
> >     State changed to None from WG Document
> > 
> > Which feels very counter intuitive, and always causes a double take.
> > Why does it not read
> > 
> >     State changed from WG Document to None
> > 
> > 
> > Also, quotes around the state names make things more obvious.
> > 
> > Will gladly file said bug, though it is a nit.
> > 
> > tim
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: *IETF Secretariat* <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> > Date: Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Datatracker State Update Notice:
> > <draft-ietf-dnsop-shared-root-server-01.txt>
> > To: <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>,
> > <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>>,
> > <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> > 
> > 
> >     State changed to None from WG Document
> > 
> > Datatracker URL:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-shared-root-server/
> > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-shared-root-server/>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___________________________________________________________
> > Tools-discuss mailing list - [e-mail]
> > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports.
> > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: [e-mail]
> > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: [e-mail]
> > * Report all other bugs or issues to: [e-mail]
> > List info (including how to Unsubscribe): https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

> ___________________________________________________________
> Tools-discuss mailing list - [e-mail]
> This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports.
> * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: [e-mail]
> * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: [e-mail]
> * Report all other bugs or issues to: [e-mail]
> List info (including how to Unsubscribe): https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss


-- 
---
[e-mail]