Re: [Tools-discuss] Alternate bibxml servers

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Sat, 13 February 2021 19:28 UTC

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On 2/13/21 1:18 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:

<trimming>
> $ curl -s https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ace-aif-00.txt | tail -2
> <p>The document has moved <a href="https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ace-aif-00.txt">here</a>.</p>
> </body></html>
>
> OK, thank you for the hint, let’s get *that*:
>
> $ curl -I https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ace-aif-00.txt
> HTTP/2 404
> […]
>
> Do I now have to pile on another emergency patch to fix the datatracker links?
> 🤦‍♂️.
I'll add a ticket to make sure this points to the archive.
>
>> {That's too bad from a SEO point of view, but effectively the result
>> is that google is never gonna pick www.ietf.org/internet-draft/foo.}
> archive/id is the stable URL [1].  The temporary ones should never be used.

I mostly agree. But there are still people who want the set of active 
drafts distinguished from the set of all drafts, and things do disappear 
from the set of active drafts.

>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
> [1]: https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
> "Cool URIs don't change"
>
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