Re: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com> Fri, 06 September 2019 13:50 UTC

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From: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>
To: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" <gsalguei@cisco.com>
CC: "Felipe Garrido (fegarrid)" <fegarrid@cisco.com>, "tram-chairs@ietf.org" <tram-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud@ietf.org>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, "tasveren@rbbn.com" <tasveren@rbbn.com>, "tram@ietf.org" <tram@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Perfect! Thanks for the status update (and of course for your work on this draft as well).

Gonzalo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@cisco.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 17:52
> To: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>
> Cc: Felipe Garrido (fegarrid) <fegarrid@cisco.com>; tram-chairs@ietf.org; draft-
> ietf-tram-stun-pmtud@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; tasveren@rbbn.com;
> tram@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10:
> (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> Hi Gonzalo -
> 
> We have published version -11 to add Felipe Garrido as the new document
> editor. This version also addressed Ben’s DISCUSS.  A version -12 is imminent to
> address Suresh and Adam’s DISCUSSes (we’ve been dealing with some
> unresponsiveness which has added to the delay). Finally, we address Mirja’s
> DISCUSS last as it requires a bit more discussion.  This is actively being pursued
> and we hope to get this document to the RFC Editor ASAP.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> > On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo
> <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> > Authors,
> >
> > what is the current status of this? The tracker has this draft in the
> > "Revised ID needed" state. Who is taking the next step? Thanks.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Gonzalo
> >
> > On 26-Aug-19 18:15, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 02:11:22PM +0000, Felipe Garrido (fegarrid) wrote:
> >>> Ben,
> >>>
> >>> I agree with the improvement but would rather use the same terminology as
> in rfc4821.
> >>> It' would be,
> >>>
> >>> The packets that are to be associated to a given flow's identifier are
> selected according to Section 5.2 of [RFC4821]."
> >>
> >> That works for me; thanks!
> >>
> >> -Ben
> >>