Re: [tram] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01.txt

Oleg Moskalenko <mom040267@gmail.com> Mon, 27 October 2014 21:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tram] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01.txt
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On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:

> Hi, All TRAMsters
> 
> We have submitted one new draft that describes the lightweight TURN(we refer it as TURNLite later) architecture and the corresponding new STUN message introduced in this draft. With the TURNLite solution, CP/SP can easily offload the complex and troublesome deployment of TURN servers to the service provider, the service provider can easily integrate the data relay function of TURNLite server into their current distributed deployed CGN devices. 
> This can be a win-win solution, and meets all the communication scenarios that the current TURN solution intends to solve, but in a more simple manner.   

Actually, not all the communication scenarios of the “full” TURN can be achieved by the TURNLite.

The "full” TURN allows pretty high degree of the network hosts privacy. If a host is using TLS/DTLS protocol for the TURN communications, then the network infrustructure devices are not able to determine the hosts’s peer address. The peer information is stored (ephemerally) at the TURN server and it may not be retrieved by the outside parties if the TURN server is properly secured.

With the TURNLite, the communication between the parties is fully controlled by the host’s network infrastructure. That may be a desirable quality in some limited circumstances (like in a strict corporate environment), but I am not sure about the general case.

> 
> We are also eager to find other cooperators that are interested in this topic. Any comments are valuable.
> 
> Mr. Liubing has apply the timeslot to present this draft in the coming IETF meeting in Holununu.
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> Best Regards.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] 
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:07 AM
> To: Aijun Wang; Bing Liu; Aijun Wang; Bing Liu
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01.txt
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> A new version of I-D, draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Bing Liu and posted to the IETF repository.
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> Name:		draft-wang-tram-turnlite
> Revision:	01
> Title:		A Lightweight TURN Architecture and Specification (TURNLite)
> Document date:	2014-10-27
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		15
> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-tram-turnlite/
> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01
> Diff:           http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-wang-tram-turnlite-01
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> Abstract:
>   This document proposes a lightweight TURN architecture which
>   simplifies the application provider side complexity of implementing
>   TURN server by transfering the data relay processing to the ISP
>   infrastructure (e.g.  CGN).  To achieve this goal, a new "Couple"
>   operation using STUN message format is also defined.
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