Re: [Trans] Compatibility of name redaction and EV

Ben Laurie <benl@google.com> Tue, 19 August 2014 18:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Trans] Compatibility of name redaction and EV
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On 18 August 2014 13:46, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> wrote:
> Ben,
>
>
>> On 18 August 2014 12:55, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the analysis you performed to start the discussion on
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/ct-policy/_p8zRz5Em3s.
>>>
>>> However, I believe that this discussion should move to the
>>> TRANS list, since it addresses a topic that is squarely within
>>> the scope of the CT standard, right?
>>>
>>> Do you disagree?
>>
>> I am not against there being a discussion in TRANS, but I think there
>> are two interlinked issues:
>>
>> 1. What signals CT provides for what kinds of certs.
>>
>> 2. What Chrome does in response to those signals.
>>
>> Each has its own appropriate venue.
>
> I agree that these are separate topics. But the overall question of whether
> the proposal for redacted certs, as part of 6962-bis, is "safe" for both
> DV and EV certs, is appropriate for this list. (It's the subject of an
> issue tracker entry that I submitted.)

Sure, that makes sense to me.

> The topic of how a CT-compliant TLS client deals with a redacted cert, of
> any type,
> is within scope for TRANS.
>
> What Chrome does is not a subject for TRANS, since you have already stated
> that Chrome will do whatever Google decides, irrespective of any TRANS RFCs
> :-).

Google is obviously not unique in this regard - it's true of all
software, right?

>> I am also mildly confused about how an RFC interacts with standards
>> that are not controlled by the IETF (i.e. the Base Requirements and
>> the Extended Validation requirements).
>
>
> Well, RFC 6125 is an example of a standards track RFC that talks about EV
> certs in the TLS context, so there is a precedent.

As far as I can see only to say its out of scope.

>
> Steve