Re: [Trigtran] FW: [dhcwg] Announce: BoF Proposal: Detecting Network Attachment

"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Mon, 16 June 2003 07:02 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins <spencer@mcsr-labs.org>
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Subject: Re: [Trigtran] FW: [dhcwg] Announce: BoF Proposal: Detecting Network Attachment
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Dear John,

I'm trading e-mail with Greg Daley, and I do believe there is a linkage,
although DNA is focused below transport - they are more about address
management, for instance, than about transport notification. I look forward
to sitting in on their BoF in Vienna.

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the mailing list - I was off
the net for a week in New Mexico (there are still some places that don't
have phones or cell coverage)...

Spencer

----- Original Message -----
From: <john.loughney@nokia.com>
To: <trigtran@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:09 AM
Subject: [Trigtran] FW: [dhcwg] Announce: BoF Proposal: Detecting Network
Attachment


> Hi all,
>
> I noticed this BOF announcement, does anyone think that
> this is related to the 'link-up' work?
>
> thanks,
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Greg Daley [mailto:greg.daley@eng.monash.edu.au]
> Sent: 11 June, 2003 09:56
> To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: [dhcwg] Announce: BoF Proposal: Detecting Network Attachment
>
>
> Hi,
>
> There has been some interest in various IETF WGs
> regarding what to do when attaching to a network,
> and how to distinguish if a host has attached to
> a currently configured network or a new one.
>
> I believe that in DHC, this is being pursued for
> the purpose of quickly detecting movement upon
> joining a link.
>
> There is currently a BoF proposed for IETF57 which
> aims to discuss issues uncovered in DHC, Mobile-IP
> and Zeroconf WGs.  The hope is that getting together
> people from these (and other) groups who are interested
> in the problems may lead to a unified approach
> to these problems (or at least only one approach each
> for IPv4 and IPv6).
>
> Here is the proposed BoF's description:
>
>
> Detecting Network Attachment (DNA) Proposed BoF Description:
>
> Network Attachment occurs when a host arrives on a new
> IP subnet.  When attaching to a network, a host either
> already has a valid configuration for this subnet or
> must configure addresses.  A host determines whether
> it requires additional configuration by Detecting Network
> Attachment.
>
> When a host has existing upper layer protocols sessions,
> it is important to receive a timely indication that
> attachment has occurred.  This may be the case if a host
> is connected intermittently, is moving or has urgent data
> to transmit upon attachment to a link.
>
> For these nodes, it is also important detect if an acquired
> link is new, or has already been visited. This information
> may be used to distinguish between events where
> configuration must be initiated, or a host already has
> valid configuration.
>
> This meeting hopes to providing a forum for those
> interested in developing generic attachment detection
> technologies for IPv4 and IPv6.
>
> The BOF aims to:
>
> * Describe existing issues encountered in DHC, ZEROCONF
>    and Mobileip WGs, which could benefit from work on
>    detecting network attachment.
>
> * Define the problem scope, and environments where network
>    attachment detection is desirable.
>
> * Determine if sufficient interest exists to form a
>    Working Group on this topic.
>
> * Reach consensus on the area of work for a potential WG,
>    including which problems are outside scope.
> ---
>
>
> If you are interested in this topic, and contributing to
> an agenda for the proposed BoF, please subscribe to
> the mailing list:  dna@eng.monash.edu.au
>
> You may subscribe by sending an email to:
>
> majordomo@ecselists.eng.monash.edu.au
>
> with the words:
>
> subscribe dna
>
> in the body of the email.
>
> More information is available at the website:
>
> http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/dna/
>
>
> Greg Daley
>
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