Re: Q on the congestion awareness of routing protocols

Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> Sat, 03 December 2022 16:40 UTC

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From: Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2022 16:40:39 +0000
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Subject: Re: Q on the congestion awareness of routing protocols
To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
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I would use multipath quic rather than tcp. And for bier CTL, we want a
fine hoppy protocol like PGMcc

On Sat, 3 Dec 2022, 13:02 Masataka Ohta, <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
wrote:

> Jon Crowcroft wrote:
>
> >>      plus any of many papers on tcp incast
>
> >> I'm afraid that if TCP incast is a problem for control traffic,
> >> there should be no bandwidth left for data traffic.
>
> > incast isn't about persistent congestion, it is about synchronised
> > sources.
>
> Is it a problem even if all the multicast control traffic
> between two routers is exchanged through a single TCP
> stream?
>
>                                                 Masataka Ohta
>
>