Re: [tsvwg] dispute (Re: Results of consensus call on ECT(1) usage)

Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Fri, 22 May 2020 21:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] dispute (Re: Results of consensus call on ECT(1) usage)
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> On May 22, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> wrote:
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> Joe and others have asked about a "do nothing" (or "none of the above") choice that was missing from the poll.  If there were inconclusive results to the poll, I suppose that would have been a default state we would fall into.   This would basically be maintaining the status quo with regard to ECT(1) usage, and have both L4S and SCE needing to find alternative ways to function. The inputs we received show that this would not have been a favorable option to the group.

You asked whether we want to eat chicken or fish. You didn’t give us a choice of not dining.

So sure, the conclusion was one of the pre-determined paths. All you know right now is that there is more interest in one than the other.

An alternate conclusion would be that we don’t NEED to move forward with either of these at this time. I guess if the goal is to align effort in the WG, that’s fine.

But we have not seen a question that suggests either approach overcomes the “first, do nothing” approach - which frankly ought to be our first answer, in this WG.

Joe