Re: [Tsvwg] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-tsvwg-addip-sctp-11.txt

Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Tue, 01 March 2005 19:23 UTC

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From: Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>
Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-tsvwg-addip-sctp-11.txt
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:14:00 +0100
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Hi Sal,

it is not a problem if the destination address of the INIT is
listed in the INIT-ACK. If it is a problem with a particular
implementation it is a bug of that implementation...

Best regards
Michael

On Mar 1, 2005, at 18:16 Uhr, Salvatore Loreto wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>  
> sorry but if an INIT sender receives an INIT ack from a different  
> Address
> that can't be a problem?
>  
> br
> /sal
>
> Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
> Hi Sal,
>
> you can just use the real address as the source address of the
> INIT-ACK and list the destination address of the INIT in the
> INIT-ACK.
> So the COOKIE-ECHO should go to the real address.
>
> After the handshake you could delete the address.
>
> Please note that the intention of ADDIP is not mobility,
> but allow for reconfiguration in long living associations
> without interrupting the service.
>
> Best regards
> Michael
>
> On Mar 1, 2005, at 14:50 Uhr, Salvatore Loreto wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >  
> > my scenario is this,
> > suppose I want start a session with a node belongto a Mobile IP
> > network, and this node moved to a foreign network...
> > so now when the MN receives an INIT, I think insert in the INIT ACK
> > also a ASCONF chunk with the real address (it has in the foreign
> > network), should improve mobility delay.
> >  
> > br
> > Sal
> >
> > Michael Tuexen wrote:
> > Hi Sal,
> >
> > why not just use the correct addresses dring setup? If
> > one of the addresses is not valid anymore it can not be
> > used for DATA transfer, because it will not be verified.
> >
> > And the SCTP chunk authentication, which is now required
> > for ASCONF/ASCONF-ACK chunks needs the 4 way handshake
> > to establish a shared key. See
> >  
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-tuexen-sctp-auth-chunk 
> -03.txt
> >
> > Best regards
> > Michael
> >
> > On Mar 1, 2005, at 9:20 Uhr, Salvatore Loreto wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >  
> > > I've a question about addip:
> > >  
> > > why is it impossible change an association address during the four
> > way
> > > handshaking ?
> > >  
> > > br
> > > Sal
> > >
> > > Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > > directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the Transport Area Working Group  
> Working
> > > Group of the IETF.
> > >
> > > Title : Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Dynamic Address
> > > Reconfiguration
> > > Author(s) : R. Stewart, et al.
> > > Filename : draft-ietf-tsvwg-addip-sctp-11.txt
> > > Pages : 35
> > > Date : 2005-2-22
> > >
> > > This document describes extensions to the Stream Control  
> Transmission
> > > Protocol (SCTP) [RFC2960] that provides a method to reconfigure IP
> > > address information on an existing association.
> > >
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