Re: [tsvwg] WGLC concluded for draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp as PS

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To: Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] WGLC concluded for draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp as PS
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Hi Gorry, all,

The authors asked me to check if I have any comments about the changes made since last time I reviewed the document. So, I went and read -14. 

I have only minor editorial comments and one comment about this note:

(1)

   The specification of scheduling for concurrent multipath and related
   the congestion control algorithms and re-ordering methods for use in
   the general Internet are outside the scope of this document.  If, and
   when, the IETF specifies a method for concurrent usage of multiple
   paths for the general Internet, the framework specified in this
   document could be used to provide an IETF recommended method for MP-
   DCCP.

I still don't understand why this note is imposed here while there is no such restriction on draft-ietf-quic-multipath or MPTCP. I think we need to be consistent here especially that the design in the document mirrors what is in RFC 8684.

(2) Editorial:

* s/[RFC4340]/(RFC 4340): citations are not allowed in the abstract.
* I would delete this sentence from the abstract because the applicability it UDP/plain IP is discussed in separate individual I-Ds:

   Compared to the existing multipath
   protocols, such as MPTCP, MP-DCCP provides specific support for non-
   TCP user traffic (e.g., UDP or plain IP).

* I would also delete this one as it is redundant with the sentence right before:

   Multipath DCCP provides the ability to
   simultaneously use multiple paths between peers.  

* I'm not sure I would keep the para with in the main text: 

   MP-DCCP was first suggested in the context of the 3GPP ..

* s/ proposes a lightweight encapsulation for DCCP/ proposes an
   encapsulation for DCCP

* s/it/MP-DCCP (many occurrences in 1.1)

* Consider deleting Table 1 as this is redundant with the IANA section. If you keep it, make sure "10" is tagged a suggested value  + add a note to IANA to update it.

* Idem for Table 2.

* s/[RFC4340] Section 6/Section 6 of [RFC4340]

* s/The fields used by the the multipath option/The fields used by the multipath option

* s/Cellular due to e.g. cost reasons/Cellular due to, e.g., cost reasons

* s/In the case of path mobility Section 3.11.1/In the case of path mobility (Section 3.11.1)

* s/A MP_SEQ Section 3.2.5 MUST be/A MP_SEQ (Section 3.2.5) MUST be

* s/Contrary to a MP_FAST_CLOSE Section 3.2.3/Contrary to a MP_FAST_CLOSE (Section 3.2.3)

* s/the MP_KEY option with an Host-specific/the MP_KEY option with a Host-specific

* broken formatting 

OLD: 
  * an identifier (id 2) for
   the new IP address which is used as a reference in subsequent control
   exchanges. * the IP address of the new path (A2_IP) * A pair of
   octets specifying the port number associated with this IP address.

NEW:
  * an identifier (id 2) for  the new IP address which is used as a reference in subsequent control
   exchanges. 

  * the IP address of the new path (A2_IP)

  * A pair of octets specifying the port number associated with this IP address.

* The same issue with other parts:

   The following options MUST be included in a packet carrying
   MP_ADDADDR: * the leftmost 20 bytes of the HMAC(A) generated during
   the initial handshaking procedure described in Section 3.3 and
   Section 3.2.6 * the MP_SEQ option with the sequence number (seqno 12)
   for this message according to Section 3.2.5.

   Host B acknowledges receipt of the MP_ADDADDR message with a DCCP-Ack
   containing the MP_CONFIRM option.  The parameters supplied in this
   response are as follows: * an MP_CONFIRM containing the MP_SEQ number
   (seqno 12) of the packet carrying the option that we are confirming
   together with the MP_ADDADDR option * the leftmost 20 bytes of the
   HMAC(B) generated during the initial handshaking procedure
   Section 3.3

   etc.

* 

* Move these to be listed as normative (please check other entries as well): 

   [RFC4086]  Eastlake 3rd, D., Schiller, J., and S. Crocker,
              "Randomness Requirements for Security", BCP 106, RFC 4086,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC4086, June 2005,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4086>.

   [RFC6234]  Eastlake 3rd, D. and T. Hansen, "US Secure Hash Algorithms
              (SHA and SHA-based HMAC and HKDF)", RFC 6234,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC6234, May 2011,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6234>.

   [RFC8126]  Cotton, M., Leiba, B., and T. Narten, "Guidelines for
              Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs", BCP 26,
              RFC 8126, DOI 10.17487/RFC8126, June 2017,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126>.

   [RFC8174]  Leiba, B., "Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC
              2119 Key Words", BCP 14, RFC 8174, DOI 10.17487/RFC8174,
              May 2017, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8174>.

* This one was obsoleted by RFC9293

   [RFC0793]  Postel, J., "Transmission Control Protocol", RFC 793,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC0793, September 1981,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc793>.


Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Gorry Fairhurst
> Envoyé : lundi 11 mars 2024 13:31
> À : tsvwg@ietf.org
> Cc : draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp@ietf.org
> Objet : [tsvwg] WGLC concluded for draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp as
> PS
> 
> The WGLC fordraft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp has concluded.
> 
> See:https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
> datatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-
> dccp%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40orange.com%7C459ff18746c34b
> 661b8b08dc41c72d5a%7C90c7a20af34b40bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638457
> 570918853685%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM
> zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jOwmVR3eRDhbPXHkA
> vTdPSspyNGr2S%2B6IZZEOmzJg%2FE%3D&reserved=0
> 
> There was WG consensus to adopt as a PS (07/2023).
> 
> This WGLC in 02/2024 received reviews by: Kevin Smith, read and ready
> Franisco Fontes, read and ready Hang, read and ready Chris Box, ready
> and review comments
> 
> Issues were raised during the WGLC requiring a revised ID, but there
> were no WGLC comments indicating that this document was not ready for
> publication. Editors, please prepare an updated revision.
> 
> The document will now be reviewed by me as the document shepherd with
> the intention of preparing a writeup for publication as PS.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Gorry
> (TSVWG Co-Chair)

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