[Tsvwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sigtran-usctp-01.txt

Qiaobing Xie <xieqb@cig.mot.com> Mon, 26 February 2001 18:56 UTC

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From: Qiaobing Xie <xieqb@cig.mot.com>
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Jon,

See my comments below...

-Qiaobing

Jon Berger wrote:
> 
> Qiaobing,
> 
> A few more comments on this latest draft.
> 
> 1) Section 3.2.2
> The description of the B and E bits indicates that fragmentation is not
> allowed in the P-DATA chunk, but the text in section 5 explicitly states
> that fragmentation is allowed.  I think you need to update this section with
> the text from the RFC.

Yeah, this is a little messy in the document. P-DATA can be either
reliable or unreliable depends on which steam it is sent to.
Fragmentation is only prohibited on *unreliable P-DATA* (ie., when it is
sent to an unreliable stream) but not prohibited if it is sent to a
reliable stream. I will clean this up in the next revision (we are in
fact proposing two different extensions in this one draft).

> 
> 2) Section 3.2.2
> One thing that isn't explicitly mentioned (although is implied) is when to
> calculate the checksum on padding bytes.  Maybe the addition of the
> following sentence at the end of the Checksum Coverage section would help?
> "Padding at the end of the P-DATA chunk MUST NOT be considered when
> calculating the Adler-32 checksum."

Ok. will be added.

> 
> 3) Section 4.2
> The second paragraph states that unreliable data must not be fragmented but
> transmitted in one go no matter what the size.  Section 6.9 of the RFC says
> that, if fragmentation is supported, messages larger than the MTU must
> either be fragmented or not sent at all.  I'm not aware of the reasoning for
> this requirement in the RFC but I think we should be consistent.

I don't see any inconsistency here. Section 6.9 of RFC2960 is talking
about reliable messages, while Section 4.2 of this document deals with
__unreliable__ messages.

> 
> Jon
> 
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> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sigtran-usctp-01.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> This draft is a work item of the Signaling Transport Working Group of the
> IETF.
> 
>         Title           : SCTP Unreliable Data Mode Extension
>         Author(s)       : Q. Xie, R. Stewart, C. Sharp, I. Rytina
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-sigtran-usctp-01.txt
>         Pages           : 14
>         Date            : 19-Feb-01
> 
> This document describes an extension to the Stream Control
> Transmission Protocol (SCTP) [RFC2960] to provide unreliable data
> transfer services. The benefits of this extension includes unified
> congestion control over reliable and unreliable data streams, single
> association for multi-content data services, link level
> fault tolerance for unreliable data transfer, unreliable data stream
> multiplexing, etc.
> 
> The unreliable data transfer service will also support partial payload
> checksum in order to facilitate bit-error tolerance media
> applications.
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