Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing the L-queue" discussion during the interim
Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Fri, 22 April 2022 21:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing the L-queue" discussion during the interim
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Jonathan, This concerns the experiment in your report last August'21, where you claimed that there was an L4S 'throughput bonus'. I asked you to either do an A/B experiment or explain your experiment setup, so that we can check why we cannot reproduce any bonus with either: a) the experiments that Koen did with an unresponsive L4S flow. b) or the many A/B experiments done with two responsive flows, one paced ECT(1) vs. one CUBIC ECT(0). This is the fourth request (starting 17 Feb 22). Please refer to the thread with my other three reminders here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/Bthg3orBBE09Q45HAREXZgoLgcM/ in case your mailer is ignoring or junking that thread, I'm sending this email on another thread about this experiment that was running in parallel. Bob -- ________________________________________________________________ Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/
- [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing the L… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Neal Cardwell
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Luca Muscariello
- [tsvwg] FQ-CoDel response to unresponsive traffic… Bob Briscoe
- [tsvwg] FQ-CoDel response to unresponsive traffic… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] FQ-CoDel response to unresponsive tra… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] FQ-CoDel response to unresponsive tra… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Luca Muscariello
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Luca Muscariello
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Luca Muscariello
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Related to "Non-L4S traffic abusing t… Sebastian Moeller
- [tsvwg] Not responding to ECN AQMs in the core (w… Bob Briscoe