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Re: [Txauth] XYZ-08 vs XAuth-08

Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Mon, 15 June 2020 23:43 UTC

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From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:42:43 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Txauth] XYZ-08 vs XAuth-08
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:43 PM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for jumping in so late (and with so little to say).  But,
>
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 11:58:03AM -0700, Dick Hardt wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 5:29 AM Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > >
> > > These are input proposals, everything is up for debate. That’s why
> we’re
> > > debating.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, we are debating the pros and cons of each proposal.
>
> maybe it's just me, but the phrasing of "debating the pros and cons of each
> proposal" makes it sound like a fixed evaluation, where we have two inputs,
> tally the plusses and minuses in each's column, and at the end decide what
> is "better".  I'd much rather describe what we're doing now as exploring
> what properties we could have in GNAP and considering which of those
> properties we believe will make for a successful protocol.
> Hopefully everyone is already doing this, and I will happily apologize for
> wasting your time to read this message.  But I do want to avoid this as a
> question of "is X or Z a better protocol?", and ensure that we feel that we
> have the freedom to do the right thing.
>

Hey Ben, thanks for pointing out my sloppy language, and the possible
misinterpretation.

I think we are debating the pros and cons of each of the proposal's *to
provide a feature* in the protocol, specifically the 4 areas I had concerns
in XYZ, and my proposals to address each of those.


/Dick



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