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Re: [Tzdist] Next step

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Thu, 29 October 2015 08:53 UTC

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<chair hat on>

On 10/28/15 8:35 PM, Cyrus Daboo wrote:

> To be honest with you I don't have a serious use case to implement
> this right now.

ok.

>
> So if we drop that suggestion, that just leaves two possible things
> for the WG:
>
> 1) Registering a zoneinfo media type (which I think can be done
> without the need for a WG).

Do others agree or disagree?


> 2) Something new to think about: should we propose that IANA run a
> tzdist service as another facet of the time zone database support they
> do? That would certainly be a way to "bootstrap" interest in the
> protocol.

The same sorts of questions:

1.  Would the community make use of such a service?  I think when it
comes to a continuing operational cost, there would have to be very
strong and broad demand.
2.  Is it appropriate for IANA to perform this function?  This one would
require discussion once we get past (1).
3.  Is there a draft author?   Never too early to write a draft to
define the service requirements and how it would be managed.  It's not
all protocol.
4.  Are there reviewers?

Eliot

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