Re: [Udp35] TAPS BOF and moving the transport API forward

[Eliot Lear <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

On 5/26/14, 5:48 PM, Brian Trammell wrote:
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> (2) We need to look into ways we can rescue "roll-it-yourself over UDP" from creeping middlebox breakage. Happy/angry* eyeballs is one approach here, but there may be things that can be done in a UDP shim layer that can help too.

Perhaps I misunderstand, but IMHO angry eyeballs requires that there be
the UDP way and The Better Way<tm>.  I have my own definition of The 
Better Way, which includes among other things, NAT friendliness,
directionality detection, and something that doesn't need a blasted UDP
header.  Security in the transport layer (as opposed to TLS) would be a
really cool nice-to-have, as well.

The reason this doesn't simply fit into the Department of Obvious Things
To Say is that it's all about middle boxes, and finding the appropriate
characteristics they feel comfortable both implementing and allowing to
be deployed (e.g., directionality and (don't choke) NAT friendliness
probably being a requirement).

Eliot