Re: [Unwanted-trackers] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-dult-00-04: (with COMMENT)

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
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Subject: Re: [Unwanted-trackers] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-dult-00-04: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Éric!

Thanks for the review.  More below.

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> I do not see what "The WG will work with gender-based violence experts
> throughout development of the protocol" has to do in the list of program of
> work; may I suggest to move it at the end at the same place as discussions with
> Bluetooth SIG? Why limiting the interaction to only gender-based violence ?
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> What is the intended status for "Design mechanisms to ensure that devices that
> do not correctly implement..." ?

With the insight of your review, Zahed's and a previous mailing list conversation, it is clear that the numbered list in the program of work caused confusion by mixing deliverables, and cross-cutting review activities and design properties that apply to the multiple bullet points prior.  To convey this distinction in the new -05, I kept the text you referenced but removed it from the numbered list; and added text that these two items were broadly applicable to the standards track work described in the earlier text.

Others have commented the text related to coordination with gender-based violence group.  I would add that this text and the prominence with which it was added is a direct result of BOF and ML discussions which considered it significant and distinct.

> The informal document in the milestones section does not appear in the
> "program of work", suggest to add it there as well.

Good point.  A new item in the program of work has been added in -05.

Regards,
Roman