Re: [Unwanted-trackers] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-dult-00-04: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Thu, 15 February 2024 13:48 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Roman,

The -05 is indeed much clearer and consistent with detailed intended status.

While the main focus on gender-based violence must be kept (perhaps using intra-family wording if it exists in English to be broader as there are same-sex couples), may I suggest leaving the door open to other source of expertise with "notably" or "mainly" or "first" ?

-éric

On 15/02/2024, 14:29, "Roman Danyliw" <rdd@cert.org <mailto:rdd@cert.org>> wrote:


Hi Éric!


Thanks for the review. More below.


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> I do not see what "The WG will work with gender-based violence experts
> throughout development of the protocol" has to do in the list of program of
> work; may I suggest to move it at the end at the same place as discussions with
> Bluetooth SIG? Why limiting the interaction to only gender-based violence ?
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With the insight of your review, Zahed's and a previous mailing list conversation, it is clear that the numbered list in the program of work caused confusion by mixing deliverables, and cross-cutting review activities and design properties that apply to the multiple bullet points prior. To convey this distinction in the new -05, I kept the text you referenced but removed it from the numbered list; and added text that these two items were broadly applicable to the standards track work described in the earlier text.


Others have commented the text related to coordination with gender-based violence group. I would add that this text and the prominence with which it was added is a direct result of BOF and ML discussions which considered it significant and distinct.


> The informal document in the milestones section does not appear in the
> "program of work", suggest to add it there as well.


Good point. A new item in the program of work has been added in -05.


Regards,
Roman